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Ken



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 5:24 pm    Post subject: The Power Of Mind Reply with quote

A german film crew captures a levitation performance by an african shaman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNMz9KvdtY4


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think they call that jumping.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Dr. Wu
I start this thread with that film because I find it very interesting.I think that levitation is real.Ofcourse there are many triks out there and can be reproduced very easily.There are many things to find out about the power of mind,about ''CHI'' and so on.
Please watch John Chang video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlZndMuYW04
He is a healer doctor.Also he can make fire with the power of his chi.Very interesting

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ken,have you ever seen the show in Las Vegas of Sigfried and Roy? They dont perform anymore because Roy was bitten on the neck by one of his tigers who was actually trying to carry him off the stage,the result was such a loss of blood that Roy suffered a stroke.But in 2000 we saw there performance and in that performace was a mind boggling stunt Ill never forget. Roy swung out over the audience,as he passed overhead I looked right into his eyes,no kidding I did. Before his feet touched down on stage or a split second afterwards he came walking out of the left side of the stage.The entire audience just gasped at this slight of hand,someone said it was done with mirrors,I dont know how he did it but it is in the end a trick.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's interesting that the far east , Asia, and India are full of psychics, spiritual gurus and others who have allegedly performed mystical feats,yet the incidence of these kind of events and people are few and far between in the western world.
Different paradigms and religious paths are most likely the reason.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Carol
I heard about that incident with Sigfried and Roy.I also know that there are many kind of amazing magical tricks out there but this doesn't mean that it doesn't exist real magical force made by the power of min.Perhaps you heard about Nina Kulagina.
Please watch this film when you get some time: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L61RptUUEqU

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ken,
You seem to believe in these people with various forms of ESP. What are your thoughts on Uri Geller? Genuine or a fraud..?

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Genuine! Uri Geller is not the only one who can bend spoons.There are a lot of people out there who can do that too,even children.Its not a secret anymore

Watch the video .Its a doc. in german about Uri Geller after the min 16

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See Psychokinetic site: http://www.psychokineze.cz/index.php?lang=en
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ken,
I was curious about your opinion of him.
I have read his autobio and one about him by Puharich a ,friend of his.
He has always interested me (since 1969) because he claims his 'powers' come from aliens called HOOVA that used to be in orbit around the earth. Geller has seen ufos many times and those in his company have also from time to time.
He is an intriguing person to say the least though many think he is a fraud.
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read that Uri Geller claims to have gained his 'powers' after being hit by a strange light from the sky, which is quite a Damascene image.

Colin Wilson touched on his freindship with Purarich and the experiences with UFO's. As I understand it, while Puharich was anxious to investigate and go deeper into the whole UFO field, Geller began to distance himself from both the man and the issue.

I'm not sure what I think about Uri Geller, I tend to think he is a man who may have genuine psi abilities but also a streak of showmanship which sometimes puts him under pressure to come up with the goods and leads him to be less than honest at times.
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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey there he is,Hi Roadghost,Im glad your posting I love reading them. Dr.Wu Ken,Uri was on C2C for the entire night some months ago.Hes an interesting fellow allright and his energy level is thru the roof.Klass tried to say that the reason he can bend spoons is he actually heats the metal by rubbing the spoon like he does,Klass claims the heat helps bend the metal,I dont believe this explanation but thats what he said.
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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

roadghost wrote:
I read that Uri Geller claims to have gained his 'powers' after being hit by a strange light from the sky, which is quite a Damascene image.

Colin Wilson touched on his freindship with Purarich and the experiences with UFO's. As I understand it, while Puharich was anxious to investigate and go deeper into the whole UFO field, Geller began to distance himself from both the man and the issue.

I'm not sure what I think about Uri Geller, I tend to think he is a man who may have genuine psi abilities but also a streak of showmanship which sometimes puts him under pressure to come up with the goods and leads him to be less than honest at times.


In his autobio Geller says as a little boy while playing n his back yard a sphere of light zapped him and since that time he has had his powers. Many years later working with Puharich they discovered through paranormal means (voices on a tape recorder I think..EVP) that his gift was from an alien intelligence orbiting earth that called itself HOOVA. He has seen ufos his whole life and some people in his company at various times have also seen them.
People have seen many strange things while with him....ojects vanishing and reappearing, ufos, metal bending, watches starting and stopping, etc.

I have always thought that something paranomal did happen to him and that paranormal events happen around him but once again was it space aliens or something else?

Like Meier, is he a fraud or genuine?
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't help but think that Geller is an illusionist. As for the shaman in the original video, I tend to think that is some kind of a trick as well. Take a look at this video from Chris Angel's TV show MindFreak:



To me, this illusion is more impressive - multiple cameras in broad daylight. Regardless, I think it's clear that there is no magic and no mysterious force at work. Just some extremely clever folks who know how to fool the human sensory equipment.

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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow....Criss Angl certainly goes one better on that shaman.
Absolutely amazing....how does he do that?

It makes one wonder how much stuff is faked in the whole paranormal arena ...including once again Billy Meier.

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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris Angel really does do some freaky stuff. There is another guy, David Blaine, who used to do a pretty interesting levitation trick - and he would do it on the street with no apparent props. You may have heard of Blaine recently - he set the world's record for holding his breath (seriously!) - 17 minutes and 4 seconds. That, in itself, is pretty unbelievable.

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