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Will Sheephogan

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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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| dr wu23 wrote: |
| Someone like Clive Owen or Ed Norton would be perfect. |
What actually happened when The Earth Stood Still? What would be the physics of that event? _________________ SOMNIUM MENS est IANUA ut INFINITIO
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Carol Nistri
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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 4:36 am Post subject: |
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| Ed Norton??
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roadghost

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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 7:51 am Post subject: |
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Keanu Reeves...??? Talk about bad casting!
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Or Canoe Reeves as he's so wooden. _________________ Now we must praise the keeper of the heavenly kingdom
The power of the Measurer and his mind-thoughts,
The work of the glory-father; as he, each of wonders,
the eternal Lord, established from the beginning.
Caedmons Hymn
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Carol Nistri
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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 8:05 am Post subject: |
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| I hope I dont have the same reaction as I did with the remake of War Of The Worlds,the original has been on t.v. and Ill bet Ive seen it a zillion times. I went to the movies to see Tom Cruise in the remake of WOW but I was disappointed for some reason, they made the movie around the scenes of destruction and violence,it was like watching many movies all rolled into one.It had a big budget with a top director and top actor yet dispite all its scenes of horror it was a little like watching paint dry. If I hadn't seen the original I maybe would have liked the remake better,but I didnt.
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Will Sheephogan

Joined: 22 Sep 2007 Posts: 623 Location: Pahrump Nevada
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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:01 am Post subject: |
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| Carol Nistri wrote: |
| I hope I dont have the same reaction as I did with the remake of War Of The Worlds,the original has been on t.v. and Ill bet Ive seen it a zillion times. I went to the movies to see Tom Cruise in the remake of WOW but I was disappointed for some reason, they made the movie around the scenes of destruction and violence,it was like watching many movies all rolled into one.It had a big budget with a top director and top actor yet dispite all its scenes of horror it was a little like watching paint dry. If I hadn't seen the original I maybe would have liked the remake better,but I didnt. |
Maybe it would help if you understood it was a sequel, NOT a remake. There are many sides to the invasion that can and should be explored. I would like to see one from the Martians point of view. What did you expect with Tom Cruise?? LOL...... My reasons are because we are the invaders - not the Martians... Is Life going to imitate Art when we go there physically? _________________ SOMNIUM MENS est IANUA ut INFINITIO
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Carol Nistri
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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 11:40 am Post subject: |
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| when we go where physically,Mars? Cripes what a disappointment that place is,it and the moon are best viewed from a distance.There two lonely dead rocks in the sky,nothing,notta,not even a microbe lives there.
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HopoUK

Joined: 14 Oct 2007 Posts: 336 Location: Brixham, Devon, England
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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Carol Nistri wrote: |
| I hope I dont have the same reaction as I did with the remake of War Of The Worlds,the original has been on t.v. and Ill bet Ive seen it a zillion times. I went to the movies to see Tom Cruise in the remake of WOW but I was disappointed for some reason, they made the movie around the scenes of destruction and violence,it was like watching many movies all rolled into one.It had a big budget with a top director and top actor yet dispite all its scenes of horror it was a little like watching paint dry. If I hadn't seen the original I maybe would have liked the remake better,but I didnt. |
None of the movies is right. I've read the book, and there is not much in any movie that covers it. But I did like the Tom Cruise one, so much so that I bought the DvD. It is closer to the book than the 50's one. The aliens travelling around on tripods is what is in the book.
However, because two movies have been made now, I doubt we will see another. At least not as it should be, from the book.
The closest that I've seen a movie come to it's counterpart book is Lord of the Rings. That was made by a Tolkien fan, and it's scenes are all in the book, except that some of my favourite parts of the book were missed out of the movie. But hey, that would have meant that they would have to make maybe 2 or 3 more movies to make it complete.
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Skeptical Site Admin

Joined: 13 Jun 2007 Posts: 1488 Location: Cincinnati, OH
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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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The thing I didn't like about the remake of WOW is that it was really a story about a bad father who is forced to grow up and learn what it really means to be a parent. The whole invasion was somewhat secondary to that story -- that's Speilberg's touch - he had a lousy relationship with his Dad and he's been trying to exorcise those demons for his entire career.
As for this new movie, I wonder how good the writing will be? So many films these days depend on special effects to bail out bad writing.
S _________________ “...If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers." -- Thomas Pynchon
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Carol Nistri
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:03 am Post subject: |
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Hopo,in Rings your absolutely right,the director wanted to stick as closely to the book as possible,as a result the movie was almost perfect.And the scenery, oh my,some of it was shot in New Zeland I believe. Skeptical thats what I think too,these movies nowadays are made the way the moviemakers Think the audience wants to see it,a lot of action with zero emphasis on the story.For me anyway the exact opposite is true,and whatever happend to leaving something for the imagination.Remember the movie Jaws? For years afterwards I could have sworn there was a scene of the sinking of the Indianapolis,if that was the name of the ship. When I saw this same movie again I was surpised that there wasnt a scene of the incidnet but on Shaw telling of the incident as he lived it.(Quinn) Now thats storytelling.My mind was fixed on his words, he told the chilling story of all those men in the water being eaten by sharks.The high pitched screams,shiver me timbers,anyway what we ought to do is write a movie based on all the things we would love to see in a really really good UFO movie. Here,Ill start,clears throat..
It was a dark and stormy night...ok your turn.
Oh,and before I forget who saw the Divinci Code,the director too tried his very best to stick to the book and he actually did a good job of it.But that was a book that required the reader pay attention and it had little to do with great set designs,still everyone I knew that saw the movie came away feeling disappointed with it,I think its because it was one of those books you could walk into and close the cover behind you,it was that engrossing.
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Carol Nistri
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:40 am Post subject: |
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| Will whats the difference between a remake and a sequel? I understood that they had to upgrade the orignal movie just as they did when it was taken from the book but I dont think I understand the word sequel,would you explain?
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Will Sheephogan

Joined: 22 Sep 2007 Posts: 623 Location: Pahrump Nevada
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:44 am Post subject: |
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A sequel explores or continues the story line of the original work. It is not supposed to be just a remake with new technology and perhaps an updated script. If you and I had escaped from the World Trade Center we could both tell very different stories how we did that but still call the story by the same name..
I'm not thinking specifically Mars when I say I would like to see this story made from the "Aliens" perspective. Why they came here, why they thought they had to destroy all of mankind, what their fears were, what their intentions were etc... I think it would be a good thought experiment since essentially 'SOMEDAY" we are probably going to be the invading "Aliens". _________________ SOMNIUM MENS est IANUA ut INFINITIO
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Carol Nistri
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| grrr,I lost a post this morning and got so ticked I had to walk away,and it answered all the questions of the universe too. What? It did. Well that would be an interesting perspective Will only unless it was broken down to human thinking the reasons would be lost on most if not all of us.Me Id like to see an old fashioned movie on the subject.One in which the director takes chances ,presents those stories we all have read and with the person who had the experience present tries to make sense of it all.But my alltime favorite idea is still a knock down drag out court scene.You'd have to spend some time on how this all got into court and in the end we would learn that both attorneys have had experiences themselves. Just get it into a court of law,a civil trial.Preponderence of the evidence,that sort of thing.Boy oh boy the arguements could be stupendous,of course the skeptical defense attorney would harp on the fact that theres no hard evidence but the prosecution is waiting for him to say just that.The defense attorney puts his foot in his mouth and opens a floodgate of witness testimony,at the end the jury has heard far far more in defensive of ufos than the defense attorney can agrue against.His whole arguement is based on lack of hard evidence.In the hands of a really good attorney Im betting that a jury would be more convinced than not that ufos do indeed exist.If we cant actually get the case into court in real life a movie on the subject would be extraordinary with only hollywoods finast writers giving the dialogue,just think of it a movie based on words instead of action scenes.Dont they know this would be a must see,it has to be done right tho.
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dr wu23

Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Posts: 2150 Location: Indiana
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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FRom Wiki:
Sequel
The most obvious approach is for the events of the second work to directly follow the events of the first, either picking up dangling plot threads or introducing a new conflict to drive the events of a second story. Because this is most common, there is no special term for it.
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I didn't see the Spielberg version of WOW as a sequel but as a definite remake or retelling of the original from a different point of view and updated to modern times.
At any rate I liked the original better though there were sme good moments in the newer version. _________________ "Some say the valley has always been haunted ever since River ran.
The rippling waters fast as the colors conceal the Green Man."
Roy Harpur from The Green Man
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HopoUK

Joined: 14 Oct 2007 Posts: 336 Location: Brixham, Devon, England
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Carol Nistri wrote: |
| Hopo,in Rings your absolutely right,the director wanted to stick as closely to the book as possible,as a result the movie was almost perfect.And the scenery, oh my,some of it was shot in New Zeland I believe. |
I agree totally. The movie is my all time favourite. It used to be " Close Encounters of the third kind ", but now it's this, especially as it's also my favourite book of all time. They just picked the right locations in every outdoor scene, from the Misty Mountains, to the barren wasteland of the plains of Mordor. Excellent.
The battle with the Balrog was just how I'd imagined it. Treebeard was perfect. And Ian Mckellan was perfectly cast for his role of Gandalf. And of course, the battle scenes were the best I've ever seen on a movie. I could go on, but this is a Ufology forum after all.
I doubt anything could beat LOTR.
Hmmm, guess what? I'm off work Wednesday and Thursday. Can you guess which Dvd's I'll be watching?
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Carol Nistri
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:18 am Post subject: |
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| Ive got LOTR on my list of dvds to hoard for winter viewing Hopo,its one of those movies youve just got to watch over and over again,theres so much to it. Ive watched Close Encounters dozens of times,I love that movie,just love it.I was talking to a poster and asked if they saw the scene where one of the sons claimed someone came into his room.The poster didnt remember seeing that,but its true.Do you know the scene Im referring too? It was brief but its about the time Roy is shaving and the kids are outside the bathroom,sound familiar.?
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