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Will Sheephogan



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dr wu23 wrote:
Will makes an excellent point in that skeptics have said for years that if these people really believe they are being abducted then why don't they report it to the police as kidnapping? Why don't they take their alleged implants to the cops as evidence?
But no one has as far as I know. Why not? Because there is no actual evidence to present to the police. If that's the case then is it really happeneing in our objective reality?


It could be an our objective reality if as Carl said in that video clip and Micheu Kaku relates in his various thought experiments that other dimensions exist with ours.

It's apparent that the only way to know what is in those other dimensions is to imagine them for now. Or is it that we construct the unknown dimensions fluidly WITH our imaginings. The thought kind of reminds me of the classic movie Forbidden Planet. Of course you don't have to imagine an invisible monster, you might just as well imagine an all powerful deity and call it "God". Interesting in that is the compulsion to make others create the same and have a consensus of belief in the imagining. Defining "it". rendering "it" and breathing life into "it". Isn't that the same thing as the “allegory of the cave” and the movement of promoters - believers - seers - and preachers in the "Space Aliens" enigma?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 5:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dr.Wu said,"Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 3:11 pm Post subject:

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Will makes an excellent point in that skeptics have said for years that if these people really believe they are being abducted then why don't they report it to the police as kidnapping? Why don't they take their alleged implants to the cops as evidence?
But no one has as far as I know. Why not? Because there is no actual evidence to present to the police. If that's the case then is it really happeneing in our objective reality?
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But lets remember how they remember these incindents.They just dont wake up one morning and scream theve been abducted.That would be too much of a shock methinks.The mind seeps the information to them slowly.Ive always wondered why if abductions really happen why it isnt done more carefully,then you start to think about it and the way its being done is on purpose. Not only do abductees wonder themselves if theve been abducted many of them seek professional help to try to come to terms with it or to have it dismissed.It makes sense really,it really does Im not kidding. How many ufo sightings have been reported now,are they in the millions yet?.Just ufo after ufo zipping thru earths skies? Why? For what? What would seem incredulous would be to believe ufo report after ufo report for decades and yet the occupants of those ufos having zero agenda,thats what would really seem senseless to me. If ufos are here,if there really nuts and bolts you can bet your last gas dollar that there here for a reason.Eeek,my toaster just popped out my english muffin and like to scare me half to death..
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's remember that "memory" is nearly the most imperfect (quality? ) of the human mind that there is. I say "nearly" because there is another part of the brain that drives us to "Believe" without evidence and "imagine" when confused or bored. Half of our thoughts are simply the brain spitting out random data based on very fallible senses that are confused routinely.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

is that what you think Will,that people that claim abduction are just imagining it?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In relation no my comment here and the thread...

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It's apparent that the only way to know what is in those other dimensions is to imagine them for now. Or is it that we construct the unknown dimensions fluidly WITH our imaginings. The thought kind of reminds me of the classic movie Forbidden Planet. Of course you don't have to imagine an invisible monster, you might just as well imagine an all powerful deity and call it "God". Interesting in that there is this compulsion to make others create the same and have a consensus of belief in the imagining. Defining "it". rendering "it" and breathing life into "it". Isn't that the same thing as the “allegory of the cave” and the movement of promoters - believers - seers - and preachers in the "Space Aliens" enigma?

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