Alien Abductions not the work of aliens?

Jeremy Vaeni · Joined: 27 Jul 2007 Posts: 465 Location: New York

Right. Well, I've given you some links to the evidence you're looking for. Or you can google search Jeff Ritzmann's work on it. The evidence is there if you care to look at it. Otherwise it will forever remain a mystery to you and an opinion as opposed to an actual fact.
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Will Sheephogan · Joined: 22 Sep 2007 Posts: 624 Location: Pahrump Nevada

Below is a thought experiment...............

1. Billy Meier has been abducted and brain washed by trickster 'alien'.....(entities)

2. Mike Horn has been abducted and brain washed by Billy Meier with the entities assistance.

3. Jeremy Vaeni is attempting to de-program Mike and other followers of Bill Meier. As well as others here attempting to de-evolve the situation.

4. Meier in truth has been abducted by demon spirits, daimons, even 'angels', etc.. that masquerade as alien's. Proof of this is evident through his religious programming and conditioning by society.

5. Further proof of this is established by poor photographic evidence submitted - apparently hoaxed by the abductors, and apologetics by all his followers when this is brought to light.

6. The entities controlling Meier have deceived all with partial revelations, prophesying, etc through Meier's own mind, conditioning and intellect. They have effectively used his entire being.

7. This is a metaphysical conundrum and task that must be challenged by all whom become aware...

From an ugly old man with a beautiful wife (Jer)......... LOL, THAT is SUPERNATURAL!!!!!!!!
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Broggin · Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 11:58 pm Post subject:

I'm reading and finding so much irony, contradiction, and plain incredulity it's mind boggling. A claimed abductess is arguing with common sense against an obvious fraud, with one person claiming to be fair and open minded, and another using a moniker indicating an ability to detect deciet who support it.

The point is, once it is shown, which it has been, in numerous instances, that a particular claim is tainted by fraud, deciet, and deliberate actions on the part of the claimant, it no longer deserves ANY credibility.

In ufology, this happens WAY too often.

No matter what kind of proof arises, no matter how much evidence, or it's quality, there will always be those in support of it.

Sacm has said many times to the effect, "Who's he hurting, he's just trying to support a family etc".

SO what? This means we ignore his fraud?

It matters not one whit, if only one of his photo's out of 1000 have been determined fake. It taints the rest, it casts serious doubt, and it makes it entirely unreasonable to continue allowing him benefit. But with Bully, it's much more than just one photo. It's proven lies, proven fakes, proven misrepresentations. If you want to continue acceptance in spite of this. Go ahead. Everyone else has already dismissed him. With good reason.

Will Sheephogan · Joined: 22 Sep 2007 Posts: 624 Location: Pahrump Nevada

When a scratched record 'stick's, it jerks to the left, and keeps on and on like the Eveready Bunny. When a record has a lump of dirt on it it 'skips' forward, finally to the end of the recording. There are too many jerks to the left........................

Ud dah ud dah ud dah.........
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Jeremy Vaeni · Joined: 27 Jul 2007 Posts: 465 Location: New York

Teri Sheephogan · Joined: 24 Oct 2007 Posts: 204 Location: Pahrump Nevada

First of all, Jer, Will is laughing his A** Off!

And as far as yourself, if that it a photo of YOU on your web site your a HANDSOME FELLOW! Wink

No problems there Smile

I'm no LOOKER myself, at least not in my book! A 5'8" Large framed AMAZON! Laughing

I'm sure I'm NOT one of those woman you talk about! LOL!!

Humor, now THIS is nice. Very Happy

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**TheScamDetective** · Joined: 15 Jun 2007 Posts: 1351 Location: California

Well ok, I have to clear up one thing.
"...and another using a moniker indicating an ability to detect deciet who support it."
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My moniker has nothing at all to do with the kind of deceit concerning hoaxers or even ufology!!
I got this nickname from dating too many scam artists aka players, users and just plain jerks!!!
I am now pretty good at spotting them from a mile away....so hence the moniker.
I'm blonde so it took me a little longer than most lol!!! Live and learn eh?
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Teri Sheephogan · Joined: 24 Oct 2007 Posts: 204 Location: Pahrump Nevada

Scam,

Now I like your moniker even more! Ha!

To be honest with you I have 2 really good friends who are NATURAL BLOND'S and they are BOTH some of the SMARTEST women I know! Now I ALSO know many who have 'dyed' their hair blond. Now those are the ones that leave you scratching your head as to how they ever made it so far in life due to their lack of sense! Laughing

Hope your a NATURAL blond, BUT, even if your not, you don't fit the mold suggested above! Wink

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**TheScamDetective** · Joined: 15 Jun 2007 Posts: 1351 Location: California

It's natural lol
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