THE DISCREDITORS

graylien · Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 174 Location: UK

I think you need to be a little more specific, Maurice. If your document is simply aimed at 'discreditors' in general, then fair enough. But you seem to be implying that it is aimed at particular members of this forum. If that is the case, then you need to back up your allegations with evidence.

For example, you claim there has been "Use of Deceit". Could you give us a specific instance of 'use of deceit' in these forums?
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Ataraxik · Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:56 pm Post subject:

lol, it's like a circus.
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Maurice Osborn · Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 3:33 pm Post subject:

My purpose for starting this thread was to bring attention to the document I wrote “The Discreditors” and hopefully get some feedback about it. However, as Teri pointed out, no one has felt the need to respond about it except for Will. Unfortunately, since he only claimed that my document was a copy from a previous lecture with a few specifics changed, it makes it hard for me to respond to it since he did not state what previous lecture he was referring to or what specific changes were made. The man is entitled to his opinion so I will leave it at that. As for the rest of you, this will be my last posting here.

Carol asked me what I want from you folks. As I have stated before, I don’t mind if you ask questions, criticize others, debunk false claims, or discredit wrong-doing as long as it is for an open-minded search for the truth. However, certain individuals of this forum have exhibited traits of being closed-minded by refusing to accept any evidence from anyone as conclusive proof of anything that is not normal and they have resorted to making insulting remarks, ridicule, and false statements. This is what I would like people of this forum to stop doing. Can I be any clearer than that or is my formal style still to confusing?

I appreciate how The Scam Detective explained how things are in forums. I wish I had known this information before I wasted my time here on people that will never change their minds and will always be abusive. Unfortunately, I fell for the message on the main page, which states “if you’re willing to help us look (for answers), you’ve come to the right place.” There are very few people here that are looking for answers to anything because they already know what is right and they will attack anyone with differing views. This is very sad, but it is sadder for anyone that comes to this forum believing that there are supportive, caring, and considerate people here for them to share their experiences with. So, I wrote my document to warn them about what the folks here are really all about.

Unlike The Scam Detective who suggested that I be less detail oriented, Graylien suggested that I be a little more specific. He stated that I have implied that my document is aimed at particular members of this forum. In truth, I have stated that all the information I derived from this forum was used as the basis for my document. It is about discreditors in general and I have been very careful not to call anyone here a discreditor.

I was quite surprised by the request for me to give a specific instance for the 'use of deceit' in these forums and the request to back up any allegations with evidence. It is pretty hard to prove that anyone is deliberately being deceitful because you do not know what they were thinking when they made a false statement. Usually, this happens because someone is not aware of the truth. There have been many statements made here that have been proven to be false, but no one has ever admitted to being deceitful and no one has ever accused anybody of it. And with that, I bid you all farewell to this thread.

Teri Sheephogan · Joined: 24 Oct 2007 Posts: 204 Location: Pahrump Nevada

**TheScamDetective** · Joined: 15 Jun 2007 Posts: 1351 Location: California

I hate it when we all get lumped into one big ball of uncaring, deceiving, discrediting meanies!!!
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HopoUK · Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 8:23 pm Post subject:

I agree Scam. Just because we don't believe someone doesn't mean that we are not interested. I am skeptical about a lot of areas in Ufology, but it doesn't mean that I don't believe in the existence of alien life. IMO I think that around 5% of UFO sightings could be alien orientated, most other sightings to be man made, natural, or just mistaken identity etc..

I think that most people are here because they believe that there is an alien presence, or at least would like to believe. That's why people are here, in the hope of discovering real proof that ET is visiting us. Sure, people are going to be skeptical about most things, but I don't think about all of Ufology.

Maurice, you seem to be saying that your word is " The Truth ", and that everyone should accept that at face value. But that will never happen, wherever you post your story. You come across as an angry, paranoid man, when you should accept that you cannot please everyone you come into contact with.

I agree that you should tell your story so that people are aware of your claims, but please do not fuel your ego by thinking that people will accept it as fact. They will ( sometimes bluntly ) tell you that you are a liar, or delusional. It is something that I think most of us here accept, so in the words of the god of fantasy ( My opinion ), Terry Pratchett, " Take a frog pill ". ( Those of you who don't read Pratchett, you won't know what I am talking about Cool

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