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Ataraxik
Joined: 22 Jul 2007 Posts: 635 Location: Manteo, Roanoke Island, NC
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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Pride goeth before a fall. Claims of being able to tell hoax from geniune is exactly what motivates many hoaxers. Not to mention the inherent logical fallacy - one can only tell which hoaxes one has exposed and cannot know how many hoaxes succeeded.
Skeptics are very likely to perpetrate hoaxes, as an exercise in seeing how people will react to a proffered stimulus. Not in any organized way, but by definition of skepticism. It is consistent with skepticism to doubt and to conduct tests to check it out. It is a long-standing practice to test how well UFO orgs investigate UFO sighting reports by making one up, sending it in, and charting what happens, if anything.
Most likely hoaxers are individual pranksters, but those with a vested interest also place high on the list of suspects. True professions are full of hoaxers, such as all the journalists faking stories, firemen (usually volunteer) starting fires they then rush in and put out, etc., and 'professional' ufology would not be exempt. I think Roswell / MJ 12 papers are very likely to be a skeptic hoax or one ufologist trying to make another ufologist look stupid. Worked. _________________ I am not young enough to know everything. - Oscar Wilde
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TheScamDetective
Joined: 15 Jun 2007 Posts: 1351 Location: California
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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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Dr Wu
"Fair...based on what? Your opinion..?
Why would skeptics pay for hoaxes?
Since when would you know how to expose amateur or pro hoaxers?... have you ever done any field work?"
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Yes, I did say it was my opinion:
"Granted, it is a pro ufo show but they are fair about it, imo."
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Why wouldn't hoaxers pay someone to perpetrate a hoax if they were, for whatever reason, unable to accomplish it themselves?
Or to be able to truthfully say they didn't do it. I didn't say ALL skeptics would do that, but I do think some would..and do...IMO.
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I have seen many pictures proposing to be ufos. Quite a few of them are obviously hoaxed....pie plates....tops....garbage can lids, etc.
So, yes, the more amateur hoaxed pictures are easier to identify.
Ooooops....imo lol. _________________ "It's our choices that show what we truly are, far more than our abilities."
Dumbledore
to Harry Potter
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Skeptical Site Admin

Joined: 13 Jun 2007 Posts: 1702 Location: Cincinnati, OH
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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Now that Halo 3 is out and there is no indication that Chad's UFO was viral marketing for the video game, we're left with the strong probability that it wass the handiwork of some mildly talented digital artist with way too much time on his or her hands.
The hoax is good for one last gasp - a neat music video done by Kris Avery:
S _________________ "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." -- Thomas Jefferson
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