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dr wu23

Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Posts: 2245 Location: Indiana
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Ataraxik wrote: |
| I'd like to request a translator, please... (?) |
Ya...well I think carol thinks on a different plane than the rest of us.
 _________________ "Some say the valley has always been haunted ever since River ran.
The rippling waters fast as the colors conceal the Green Man."
Roy Harpur from The Green Man
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Carol Nistri
Joined: 16 Jun 2007 Posts: 3284
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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 7:50 am Post subject: ok ok your right, |
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| eventually the press/media would insist that the proof be forthcoming,so what? If your the government of the most powerful nation on earth you have the protection of executive privalage,In other words you dont have to say one word you dont have to,and in this case it would be of the utmost importance that nothing be said,zero,only that which absolutely must be released.We need a scenerio here,ok,a ufo finally does show up at the super bowl the entire world sees it,it stays for the entire game,wait what am I saying,it stays until another crummy half time show then splits.
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Ataraxik
Joined: 22 Jul 2007 Posts: 635 Location: Manteo, Roanoke Island, NC
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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:13 am Post subject: |
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Ms. Carol: "If your the government of the most powerful nation on earth you have the protection of executive privalage,In other words you dont have to say one word you dont have to,and in this case it would be of the utmost importance that nothing be said,zero,only that which absolutely must be released."
Well, if you are going to arbitrarily make up all the surrounding factors and make up new rules for how goverment operates and craft it all so the scenario you admit was wrong is now right......
If UFOs are alien space ships piloted by aliens (as opposed to being unmanned alien probes) and are outside the government's control (I'm bearing in mind you flip-flop daily between 'the government knows all' and 'the government knows nothing, is helpless'), then it is very possible that any public announcement of their existence won't come from government. It all depends on the thinking of whomever makes the conclusive, no-doubt-about-it discovery. If a NASA control center tech monitoring a NASA probe's camera surveillance of some solar system moon, planet, or asteroid sees an undeniably alien crat or artifact on the screen, he or she is going to report it up the chain of NASA supervision and it goes to the US government apparatus to determine whether to release the finding or not. But NASA isn't the only possible discoverer, and the US isn't the only country with a space program capable of making such a discovery. There are also all sorts of university and private sector agencies and companies that could make such a discovery of undeniable alien presence. Plus there are literally 6 billion people on the planet who could conceivably stumble across undeniable evidence of alien presence. Whoever makes the discovery has to decide what to do with this news. There are many possibilities:
NASA/government functionary reports it up the chain of supervision or command
NASA/government functionary steps outside protocols and reports to the media
Non-US space/government functionary does either of the above
Weather satellite technician reports it up chain or goes straight to media
Private US citizen finds undeniable evidence, calls police, FBI, USAF, some authority
Private US citizen calls media first
Non-US citizen (any of the other 95% of the world's population) reports to local authorities
Non-US citizen (any of the other 95% of the world's population) reports to media
Or... some mid-level authority either jumps the system and reports to media
Or... some mid-level authority sends it up the chain, but also reports to media secretly
It can go on and on as to the possible ways such a discovery may or may not be reported beyond the first-finder. Some might think the safest path is through the local authorities and upward from there. Some might bypass locals, but stick with authorities, just at a higher level, like skipping the State Police and reporting to the FBI or USAF. Some might want nothing but glory and go straight to Geraldo. Some might go straight to media believing that the authorities will cover it up or even harm them. The possibilities are endless and impossible to predict. _________________ I am not young enough to know everything. - Oscar Wilde
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Steve
Joined: 31 Aug 2007 Posts: 93
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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 11:25 am Post subject: Re: ok ok your right, |
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| Carol Nistri wrote: |
| eventually the press/media would insist that the proof be forthcoming,so what? If your the government of the most powerful nation on earth you have the protection of executive privalage,In other words you dont have to say one word you dont have to,and in this case it would be of the utmost importance that nothing be said,zero,only that which absolutely must be released.We need a scenerio here,ok,a ufo finally does show up at the super bowl the entire world sees it,it stays for the entire game,wait what am I saying,it stays until another crummy half time show then splits. |
Thanks Carol - I can't get rid of this mental image of Britney popping out of a flying saucer during the half-time show now...
I don't think too many people would buy into any claim, let alone an extraordinary one, without corroborating evidence.
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Ataraxik
Joined: 22 Jul 2007 Posts: 635 Location: Manteo, Roanoke Island, NC
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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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Plus, a halftime show with a reptilian alien experiencing a 'wardrobe malfunction' would haunt us all for decades. _________________ I am not young enough to know everything. - Oscar Wilde
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Carol Nistri
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 7:30 am Post subject: Steve Atar, |
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| are either of you football fans?
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Ataraxik
Joined: 22 Jul 2007 Posts: 635 Location: Manteo, Roanoke Island, NC
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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Not really. _________________ I am not young enough to know everything. - Oscar Wilde
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Carol Nistri
Joined: 16 Jun 2007 Posts: 3284
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 12:29 pm Post subject: Ill tell you why I ask, |
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| many years ago while we were living in our first home,it was a Sunday afternoon and my husband had on the GIants game,Im almost sure it was the Giants but it could have been another team.This is no joke but Im stuck with it unless someone happend to be watching that same game and could come out and verify this. While we were watching the camera cut to what looked like a spinning top,it was only on it for a few minutes and I remember the football announcer saying something like,"there ought to be a law",we sat there and didnt say a word,we didnt know what to make of it and the game resummed and there wasnt a thing about it in the paper the next day,chances are slim to none that you saw this but I just thought Id ask.
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Steve
Joined: 31 Aug 2007 Posts: 93
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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I'm a football fan but we don't get Giants games down here unless it's nationally televised.
Did they win?
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Ataraxik
Joined: 22 Jul 2007 Posts: 635 Location: Manteo, Roanoke Island, NC
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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A spinning top? Do you mean in the sky or something? _________________ I am not young enough to know everything. - Oscar Wilde
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Carol Nistri
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Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 10:31 am Post subject: Giants fan yeaaaa! |
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| this is what we saw Atar,the camera which had been focused on the players went from the players to this object that was spinning,I dont know if the camera swung from the players or they switched to another camera that was focused on this object.It only lasted for a matter of seconds the announcer said something about there ought to be a law and that was it,it was very very odd but the game went on and no one said anything further about it.
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Ataraxik
Joined: 22 Jul 2007 Posts: 635 Location: Manteo, Roanoke Island, NC
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Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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It makes a difference if this spinning thing was sitting on a card table or spinning in the sky. Was it in the sky?
Perhaps the commentator meant there ought to be a law against bad directors making bad camera shot decisions. _________________ I am not young enough to know everything. - Oscar Wilde
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Carol Nistri
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Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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| my recollection was that it was about the same height as the bleechers,you could see the people in the stands in back of this thing.
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Ataraxik
Joined: 22 Jul 2007 Posts: 635 Location: Manteo, Roanoke Island, NC
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Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe it was a UFO: Unidentified Football Object _________________ I am not young enough to know everything. - Oscar Wilde
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