People as moon food.

Yipsl · Guest

Dr. Wu did not recall Keel making the 'we are moon food' comment that I recalled Keel ascribing to Chinese philosophers. I stated that Keel made the reference without a specific citation, which is vintage Keel, he's quite well read but does not often cite sources. So, I'll try to track down the original belief if I can.

Anyways, I came across a blog by Andy Colvin which did cite Keel's "Our Haunted Planet" as the source of the moon food comment. I have the book but will have to locate it in a stack somewhere, then I'll provide the exact quote. So far, I've found my copy of Mothman, Operation Trojan Horse and Disneyland of the Gods; can't seem to locate Our Haunted Planet or The Eighth Tower. They are around here somewhere, though the state of my books stacks is almost at the Ghostbusters level of paranormal (ie no human could stack books that high, or in such disarray, I might add).

Here's the blog reference:

**dr wu23** · Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Posts: 2254 Location: Indiana

From Wiki:
"Moon symbolism

Gurdjieff was documented as teaching that people assimilate and transubstantiate certain matter which upon their death is released from their body and transferred to the Moon. The simplest way of explaining this theory is by comparing it to other Biogeochemical cycle such as the Carbon Cycle or the Nitrogen Cycle. In the nitrogen cycle, bacteria assimilate and transfer nitrogen from the soil into the atmosphere. Parallel to this, in Gurdjieff's moon theory, humans assimilate a certain type of matter in order that it is transferred from the Earth to the Moon."
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"Gurdjieff’s many visionary ideas seem quite strange at first. He believed the earth and the moon were living, evolving beings – also a shamanic concept – and that humanity was designed to serve the evolutionary purposes of the earth and the moon. Human beings are, in his theory, the "organs of sense perception" for the earth, and in their continual transformations of this planet they serve the planet’s needs – not their own. "Humanity, like the rest of organic life, exists on earth for the needs and purposes of the earth. And it is exactly as it should be for the earth’s requirements at the present time."

In his system, there are many finer gradients of matter that science does not register – not only ideas and thoughts, but even a substate of the human soul are types of material. After we die, according to Gurdjieff, the moon consumes the fine matter of human souls. It is like a magnet that draws our souls into it: "Everything living on the earth, people, animals, plants, is food for the moon. The moon is a huge living being feeding upon all that lives and grows on the earth." Someday, the earth would evolve into a being like the sun, while the moon would transform into a second earth. Humanity was simply a stage in this process. "
Daniel Pinchbeck from his web site 'breaking open the head'.

There are a number of sites that go into his food for the moon idea in some detail.
http://www.jcrows.com/bigmoon.html
http://montalk.net/matrix/114/food-for-the-moon

Personally I do not think these assertions were to be taken literally but in a spiritual or metaphorical sense. I have read a fair amount of Gurdjieff and Ouspensky over the years and that's the impression I formed.
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Yipsl · Guest

Well, I did not find Our Haunted Planet, but I found The Eighth Tower. The very odd bit of synchronicity is that I had chapter 11 bookmarked on the page that has the moon food comment. Here it is:

Yipsl · Guest

**dr wu23** · Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Posts: 2254 Location: Indiana

I think the whole idea of 'food for the moon' to be a bit outre and imo if it has any merit at all it is only as spiritual metaphor.
As I said I have read a fair amount about 4th Way Work and own most of Gurdjieff and Ouspensky's books as well as several by Bennett , and the one thing I do believe is that 'G' was very much a Trickster by all accounts from those who knew him well.
He often phrased things in obscure/esoteric ways to get people to think out of the box or look at it in different ways and would trick people using all kinds of methods. Ouspensky eventually left him for these and other reasons.

I think most of these things are just human models and attempts to figure out the nature of mystery in Reality. And I think we basically have got it wrong all the way frm trad religous Christian views to esoteric eastern or middle eastern paths.
IMHO if and when any of us ever discover the 'way it is' we'll probably say...'Damn...I never saw that one coming."
Wink

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"Some say the valley has always been haunted ever since River ran.
The rippling waters fast as the colors conceal the Green Man."
Roy Harpur from The Green Man

**TheScamDetective** · Joined: 15 Jun 2007 Posts: 1351 Location: California

All this talk of moon food is making me hungry...swiss cheese anyone???
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to Harry Potter

Yipsl · Guest