Seeing Fairies

**Somerville Changeling** · Joined: 09 Sep 2007 Posts: 396 Location: Central Texas

People still see fairies and other traditional creatures from folklore, it's not all gray aliens in flying saucers. Though that board is the most active here, I thought I'd bring present day sightings of fairies to the attention of the forum's members. Two sites that have interesting accounts:

http://paranormal.about.com/library/weekly/aa021703a.htm

The following reminds me of a hypnopompic or hypnogogic experience that's often related to the Old Hag, but in this case a girl saw a tomte in the room:

Teri Sheephogan · Joined: 24 Oct 2007 Posts: 204 Location: Pahrump Nevada

Somerville,

Will and I like to go up into the Spring Mountains here in Pahrump area. About a year or two ago I purchased a 'pendant' of a fairy which was 'inhabited' by one. I feel as is she showed herself to me up in the Spring mountains once when I brought the pendant with me. I simply asked for her to come forth to 'dance' with me and than I was drawn to take a photo of a specific area.

Here is our photo site link... it should bring you to that set of photos. You will see the pendant and than the photos which seem to show a 'fairy' or some other such anomaly. I do feel it was 'her', Ariana, as I only took a couple of photos and the ones with the anomaly are the ones taken at the very moment that I asked for her.

What do you, or anybody, think?

http://sheephogan.smugmug.com/gallery/1724616_PKYRu#85448916

You are welcome to browse the entire site. There are other photos of other phenomenon or just 'strange' energies or whatever.
ENJOY.

Teri
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roadghost · Joined: 08 Aug 2007 Posts: 148

Somerville, I remember Colin Wilson addressing this in a chapter of one of his books (I think it was Afterlife) regarding fairie sightings and elementals. There's a surprising amount of these accounts from witnesses in modern times and given the amount of negative reaction people recieve when admitting to UFO sightings you wonder how much more ridicule they face in recounting tales of little people and if the known reports are just a tip of the iceberg.

How this all ties in with UFO's and other paranormal events I don't know. Like Vallee I suspect that all may share some common mechanism for want of a better word but not neccessarily to the extent that they are the same thing in different guises. There is an argument to be made that they are mental constructs based on folkloric/psycho-social conditioning but although that sits reasonably well with a seventeenth century peasant seeing one it doesn't quite work with regards to couples like the ones mentioned from Croydon.

**dr wu23** · Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Posts: 2294 Location: Indiana

Well..sorry to say I don't see any fairies in your pics ..at least I don't interpret that small spot that way.
As fas as the orbs I think it has been well determined by camera experts thay are anomalies of dust and other particles with digital cameras mostly but also happens with the old types too.
But then I'm not a believer ....
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Teri Sheephogan · Joined: 24 Oct 2007 Posts: 204 Location: Pahrump Nevada

Fair enough, Doc. What DO you interpret the spot as? I am genuinely curious? There was NOTHING reflective in the area nor was it around a 'fire' anywhere.. so I am genuinely curious?

As to the orbs, why would you see just a couple big specks of dust in one shot and then only one or many more in the next shot? IF there were dust on the lens itself it 'should' repeat in subsequent frames... right? or at least I'D think so?

There is a rather LARGE orb / dust in the pic with the tent. Is THAT just a LARGE dust speck that the lens of the digital picked up? Of course, it COULD be and I am genuinely curious.... so.... what do you think? Seems as if it is something else to me, but what do I know?
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**Skeptical** · Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 8:35 pm Post subject:

Werewolf - did you mean to leave a comment? Confused

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roadghost · Joined: 08 Aug 2007 Posts: 148

I don't know, as to the original post from Sommerville. I suspect some subjects within the paranormal field have an unfair advantage, ie, people feel more comfortable with some areas due to a kind of intellectuall vanity that means it's ok to speculate about psi, ESP, Vallee like trickster phenomena whereas other subjects are burdened with a certain amount of negative associations and a snigger factor, post mortem existence and faires being two examples. It's the credulity factor a step too far and maybe that's healthy, maybe it's not. But if we can encompass the idea of thoughts and emotions being independant from the brain as in ESP or holographic theories regarding how mind and universe interact then surely we have to at least give house room to the possibility of things like fairies (after all just another form of entity, along with ghosts, spirits etc.

Once you cross the boggle threshold of accepting certain paranormal events as being possible, many more things shuffle into the frame whether we like them or not.

**dr wu23** · Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Posts: 2294 Location: Indiana

Dr Vallee has said that it is possible that what we call ufos and aliens today is the same phenomenon that our ancestors called fairies, elves, demons, angels, etc. Is there a common source to these strange events? Could something, some Other, be creating anomalous apparitions and sightings with some goal or agenda? Or are they just manifestations from human consciousness as it interacts with quantum reality?
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roadghost · Joined: 08 Aug 2007 Posts: 148

To use a simplistic comparison, I'd respond by saying just because there are mimic wasps, this doesn't invalidate the idea of genuine wasps existing too. I think that Vallee's ideas certainly have credibility but, as I've stated elsewhere, to focus on one particular idea to the detriment of all others only engenders, as seen in the UFO community, a lot of in fighting and not much progress in real terms.

The approach with regards to Ghosts seems to work better, whereby investigators conclude that many phenomena, both prosaic, fringe science, psycho/sociological and paranormal, might be operating and each case is commented on in the context it points too.

**Somerville Changeling** · Joined: 09 Sep 2007 Posts: 396 Location: Central Texas

It took a long time for me to decide to come back. I guess I needed the first vacation in 13 or so years from message boards. Skeptical even invited me back months ago, but I only decided to come back yesterday.

So, I'm catching up on the board where I'm still a moderator (I'm surprised Skep kept me on the list for so long). I'll look at the Sheephogan's images and then get back to the thread.

Well, I won't vouch for the fairy in the pendant. The image seems to be a fractal. Doesn't need light shining off of it to show that, if it's the way the gem (or glass) is cut. I'm less skeptical of fairy sightings than you might think, but I'm very skeptical of enchanted pendants sold on eBay.

I genuinely recommend Diane Purkiss' "At the Bottom of the Garden: A Dark History of Fairies, Hobgoblins, Nymphs, and Other Troublesome Things". You can get it at Amazon.com. She's a historian at Oxford specializing in early modern witchcraft, the English Civil War, and fairy stories. She's a children's author under a pseudonym, and I can't wait to read her upcoming books: "A History of Good in England", and "Shakespeare and the Supernatural". Next week I'm finally ordering her book "The English Civil War: Papists, Gentlewomen, Soldiers, and Witchfinders in the Birth of Modern Britain".

Anyways, I tend to not get to the point overly quickly. The point is that fairies are not little tinkerbells who can be summoned and placed in crystals, or who sit on flowers. They travel with the unshriven dead, when Scottish witches were interrogated, they told disturbing fairy contact stories that the witchfinders had to reinterpret as dealings with the devil. They are alleged to steal children and replace them with handicapped changelings (even if they were real fairies, they are old and shriveled wee folk). They are the explanation for dangerous practices mothers used to get "their" children back from medieval France to 19th century Ireland.

Fairies today are also spacemen. When they are demonic, they are abducting greys. When they are angelic, they are nords or men in black. I, personally, believe that some things exist that people in every generation interpret as the ghosties and ghoulies of their traditions. They are extradimesional beings in metallic craft, and otherworldly courts riding with the unshriven dead. They are creatures of our imagination, our religions and our darkest experiences.

If one could be purchased on eBay then it would make a good episode for a new incarnation of "The Twilight Zone".

That said, I felt absolutely certain that I sensed the presence of a fairy of some sort in the Allegheny mountains of Pennsylvania back in 1978, and I was not enchanted, I was afraid. If you encounter a fairy, you might be enchanted, but you should be afraid too. The same goes for the Old Hag, which I experienced once in my life.

Yet, they don't have much power over humans, not even if people seek contact with them. They've simply been here from time immemorial and take their cues from our stories and mythologies. What they truly are, if they are anything outside of our own subcreation is a matter for debate.
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Teri Sheephogan · Joined: 24 Oct 2007 Posts: 204 Location: Pahrump Nevada

Somerville,

**Somerville Changeling** · Joined: 09 Sep 2007 Posts: 396 Location: Central Texas