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Dick Afflis



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 3:34 am    Post subject: My personal encounter with an unusual craft Reply with quote

Hello all,
I was asked to repost this because of server issues. i had a very unusual encounter in December of 2004. I have searched high and low on the internet that I hope to have completed soon. I will post it on my blog and have found nothing that describes this craft. I have over my period of documenting this encounter created a blog site that I post stuff as I find it and a written statement of my encounter. i have a short video of the place where it took place and some jpgs from Google Earth and some very rudimentary diagrams of the craft. I am in the process of creating a representative model of the craft that I hope to have completed soon hopefully this weekend. i will put a picture of it on the blog as son as i get it completed and photograph. I do know this much. I was close enough to it that if it had stopped in mid flight and I stopped my vehicle, I could have gotten out, walked over to it and touched it. It was no more than 40 or 50 feet away at one time. i you look at the video you will see it was flying beside me right off of a bluff above the surfline and stayed beside me for a long period of time almost 300 feet at 50 MPH a long period of time. It was also at the height so I could see the top of the craft, the rear of the craft very well and know all the distinguishing marks and approximate size. I have worked my entire life in horizontal construction so I can estimate length's and height's extreme well. I am also retired military and am a trained observer. I also have been blessed with an almost total recall of every thing I see, read or hear. But that should be left for another forum.
Please understand I am not that savvy with this blogging so if you go to the site just scroll down where you can find my written statement, look at the jpg's then come back up and look at the video and read the other information that I have found that may corroborate that what I saw exists and is a very "black" craft.

So look at the information and come up to your own conclusion. I know what I saw and we made it.

http://governmentsecretsaucer.blogspot.com/ Shocked
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dick - thanks for re-posting this. Any idea how close this incident was to Edwards AFB? As you well know, there are a number of skunkworks projects going on out there at any given moment. Some of the UAV designs they're working with are pretty unconventional.

Also, I was wondering if you ever got the slightest impression that what you were seeing was not a physical craft? My daughter had a sighting a couple of years ago that almost seemed as though it was a holographic image. I am wondering if what you were seeing might have been some advanced type of projected image.

I saw that you mentioned in your article on UFO Iconoclasts that perhaps we have been focusing on the Air Force when, in fact, we ought to be paying closer attention to the activities of the U.S. Navy. If you care to elaborate on that, I would be interested to know your thoughts and suspicions.

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Dick Afflis



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it was a hologram then the two F-16's flying as chase/escorts a mile or so out over the ocean were holograms also!

And yes, I know where Edwards AFB is, I have been all over that base when I was on active duty. Not very much black is done at Edwards AFB.
I can only assume who was operating this craft was not suppose to be up along the land like he was. Honestly they came "flying" in from off the ocean, cruised along with me for 300 feet or so then and then zoomed off at an unbelievable speed, if you read what I have on my blog there are maps of the area. I wouldn't be taking my time posting on forums trying to build a representative model if I thought I had saw an apparition or hologram. The thing I said on my report of this is there was NO ONE else on this stretch of highway for a couple of miles in front of me or behind me. I was checking my mirrors and it is not unusual for that to be like that on this road. The section of the beach this took place would normally have campers parked along side of it, but being 2 days after Xmas,nobody was there. I chased or hauled butt as fast as the mini-van would safely go, and never passed anyone coming toward me, all the way to the Naval Air Station I was driving toward. Someone flying out over the ocean would have had an excellent view of this coastal road and knew this. There was a slight possibility that maybe a ranger or someone at the campground that you see at the left at the beginning of the video may have witnessed it, but I was driving a rental car that had to be turned in by 3 P.M. and i didn't have time to go back and see if there were other witnesses. Let me say this, if you were driving on the expressway in the slow lane and 3 lanes over a semi-truck pulls up equal to you and stays slightly ahead of you for 100 yards wouldn't you have time to make out detail on it especially if the two of you are the ONLY vehicles on the road? That was how close it was and petty close in size. It had to have been 30-35 feet in diameter and 5-6 feet at it's middle, tapering towards the outer edge. if you look at the video which I believe was taken around of end of June the place is packed with people. Not like that between Xmas and new year.

This was a very real, tangible craft.


Here read this : http://tinyurl.com/2573st





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Dick - thanks for re-posting this. Any idea how close this incident was to Edwards AFB? As you well know, there are any number of skunkworks projects going on out there at any given moment. Some of the UAV designs they're working with are pretty unconventional.

Also, I was wondering if you ever got the slightest impression that what you were seeing was not a physical craft? MY daughter had a sighting a couple of years ago that almost seemed as thought it was a holographic image. I am wondering if what you were seeing might have been some advanced type of projected image.

I saw that you mentioned in your article on UFO Iconoclasts that perhaps we have been focusing on the Air Force when, in fact, we ought to be paying closer attention to the activities of the U.S. Navy. If you care to elaborate on that, I would be interested to know your thoughts and suspicions.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Dick and welcome,add yourself to the millions and millions worldwide that have seen strange craft,how the skeptics can continue calling the weather balloons boggles the mind.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Going back to my daughter's sighting, she saw what appeared to be a silver ball flying a couple plane lengths ahead of an unmarked Lear-type jet. The ball was relatively small - much smaller than the plane. While the two did not seem to be physically connected in anyway, my daughter thought that the two moved in unison. It occurred to me that a projected, holographic image (from the plane) would act in just that fashion. She said the object seemed solid but the distance in her case was a great deal more than in yours, Dick.

As for the UAV, idea, one of our posters, Seth, posted a pic on another discussion forum of a very interesting looking unmanned aircraft called the X-45. Does this look at all familiar?



It's amazing what you can do with aircraft design when you don't have to worry about keeping a pilot alive. Wink

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take the time to visit my blog where all the information is and NO it was not a winged craft, it was a disk.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh my,what a gorgeous plane,is that for real?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carol - the pic is of a real, unmanned Boeing prototype. Apparently not akin to what Dick saw. I am fully stumped by that one. Dick - have you ever run across anyone else who has sighted something similar to this? The thing that amazes me most about this phenomenon is the uniqueness of given sightings. If this were a U.S. prototype of some kind and they were reckless enough to fly it that close to a populated coast, surely someone else has caught a glimpse of it, somewhere at sometime. Weird.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dick - thought you might be interested in this UPI story

EDWARDS AIR FORCE BASE, Calif., July 26 (UPI) -- A futuristic plane made its first flight over California's high desert last week.

Boeing sent the unmanned X-45B Blended Wing Body, or BWB, experimental aircraft into the sky last week at the NASA Dryden Flight Research Center at Edwards Air Force Base for a 31-minute flight that reached an altitude of 7,500 feet.

The flight was announced by Boeing Thursday. It marked what could become a major step forward in aircraft design. The aircraft has a tailless design and wings that blend seamlessly into a wide and flat fuselage. The result is a futuristic flying machine with the classic UFO look.

"We've successfully passed another milestone in our work to explore and validate the structural, aerodynamic and operational efficiencies of the BWB concept," said program manager Bob Liebeck. "We already have begun to compare actual flight-test data with the data generated earlier by our computer models and in the wind tunnel."


Note that the dateline is Edwards AFB. It would seem there's plenty going on at Edwards after all. Granted, stil doesn't seem to jibe with the craft you saw - but the indication is that they really are pushing the envelope on airframe design.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am finishing up on the representative model of the craft i saw. i should have it completed hopefully by Sunday the 5th of August. I will take some photos of it and upload them to either here or my blog. I will make EVERYONE aware that it is just a model that I am not in anyway trying to dupe anyone. It will just be a model of the craft I saw so people will understand once and for all it''s shape and size and the the other unusual details of the craft. As I mentioned before. This is not a very well populated area. I have driven this stretch of roadway countless times at almost every conceivable time of day and have many times not encountered another vehicle for 20 -30 miles. It is a coastal road that connects the town I live in with Malibu and L.A.,Santa Monica, Calif. And even if someone else see it is anyone going to believe them?look at all the people who question me on what I saw. I will ask all of those on this forum look at my blog again or for the first time. Watch the video that I made and LISTEN to the audio I added to it. It is an excerpt from a Coasttocoast AM show with George Noory and Richard Hoagland , listen to what they are talking about.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here I will post this again. I have it on my blog.

One of the biggest questions is how successful have American efforts to back-engineer extraterrestrial technologies been? The speaker who will address that question at the X-Conference is William Hamilton, Executive Director of Skywatch International, who works full time as a computer programmer analyst at the University of California Los Angeles. Bill has devoted his private time over the past several years to accumulating testimonies from half a dozen engineers and other scientists about back engineering efforts, both of physical aircraft design and what are called "biomorphing technologies."

An important source for some of this information was Ben Rich, head of Lockheed Corporation's famous "Skunk Works" for 16 years which concentrated on research and development of Top Secret special projects concerning aerial craft such as the F-117A and other advanced technologies.


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Bill Hamilton, Computer Programmer Analyst, University of California-Los Angeles, and Executive Director of Skywatch, Lancaster, California: "He (Ben Rich) was showing slides and the last slide he showed looked like a black disk coming up from the Earth and going into space. And at that point, he said to the audience: 'We now have the technology to take ET home.' That's quite a statement. A person sitting there who heard this was Jan Hartzan. He is a senior project manager at Boeing. He's also a graduate of the UCLA School of Engineering. And he's also Director of MUFON Orange County over here in California.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you do web research on anti-gravity JPL in Malibu, Calif. has done a lot of it, which strangely was the city I was coming from. If you do web research on Mr. Ben Rich after he retired until his death he lived in Oxnard, Calif. the same city I have resided in for the past 30 years and the city I was driving toward.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 2:29 am    Post subject: I have added the pictures to my blog! Reply with quote

I completed my model and have taken some pictures of it. look at my blog and the pictures of the model I made and you will understand what I saw looked like.

http://governmentsecretsaucer.blogspot.com/

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dick - is it me or does that thing bear a resemblance to a horseshoe crab? I suppose it would not be the first time that aeronautical engineers have taken their inspiration from nature but it is curious.



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I didn't know what a horseshoe crab looked like until I read a post on Earthfiles about a similar encounter in 2006 in Northridge,Calif. which is due east, 20 miles of where I saw this on the coast.The only thing that separates my encounter and where this place is the Santa Monica mountains. After I heard the man in this report say it looked like a horseshoe crab, I had to Google the image and realized that in fact it did. I got the impression of a Manta Ray because of the probe sticking out the back reminded me of a stinger and it was Black so I found Black Manta as a Black Project by the military/government. If you were naming something by the way it looked would you say Black Horseshoe Crab or Black Manta? Wink There is a map that shows where this man's encounter took place.If you were to follow the 27 highway to the coast and turn right about 8 or less miles is where mine took place. I am going to paint it with glow in the dark paint and using a black light , take a picture of it to see what it looks like. I will post that pic on my blog if it comes out right.

Read this link to Earthfiles I believe it is the same craft.

Earthfiles
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