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Ken



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 4:41 pm    Post subject: Why People Believe Weird Things [Michael Shermer] Reply with quote



Skeptic Magazine founder Michael Shermer takes us on a hilarious romp through the strange claims we humans put forth as truth - from alien encounters to Virgin Mary sightings on pizza pies, to hidden messages revealed while playing "Stairway to Heaven" backwards - and explains the evolutionary and cognitive basis for these lapses in reason. Don't miss the one-minute challenge testing your own observational skills... Shermer is the founder/publisher of Skeptic Magazine, and author of several books, including Why People Believe Weird Things. (Recorded February 2006 in Monterey, CA)

VIDEO: http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=-7453317847381528211
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ken,
Are you plugging his book or just a skeptic who supports his point of view?

Wink
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Carol Nistri



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

snaps fingers,Ive got it! There sightseeing! Those ufos are loaded with tourists! Oh man,why didnt we see this before?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carol Nistri wrote:
snaps fingers,Ive got it! There sightseeing! Those ufos are loaded with tourists! Oh man,why didnt we see this before?


If they are from the future, they could be full of history students.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does Shermer explain in the book how it's possible that he is right and yet he still looks like the biggest idiot on the panel every time he goes on Larry King Live?
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Ken



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dr wu23 wrote:
Ken,
Are you plugging his book or just a skeptic who supports his point of view?

Wink

Hi wu,no I haven't read his book but I do support his point of view and I do mean about what he said in that video.
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Carol Nistri



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When Shermer first came of the scene that lopsided grin used to irk me,then I realized it was me that needed changing not him.Now I see him differently hes actually charming,hes wrong,but charming.Both he and Klass thought it was perfectly ok to point out what idiots us mere mortals are.I say to all skeptics everywhere,wait until you actually see or experience something then come forward and tell us it was a weather balloon,or a bit of undigested beef.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In keeping with the theme of this thread I thought I'd post this article which addresses the the problem with (some) skeptical thinking. In all fairness it could be equally applied to the believer too but does a good job of highlighting the limitations of investing to heavily in a certain outlook.

http://www.paranormalia.com/
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ken wrote:
dr wu23 wrote:
Ken,
Are you plugging his book or just a skeptic who supports his point of view?

Wink

Hi wu,no I haven't read his book but I do support his point of view and I do mean about what he said in that video.


While I definitely think people see all manner of things that aren't there and their minds play tricks on them , I also think that some paranormal things are truly legit and unexplained currently by science.
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Ken



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe that too dr wu. Wink
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Carol Nistri



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

me three.
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Ken



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jeremy Vaeni wrote:
Does Shermer explain in the book how it's possible that he is right and yet he still looks like the biggest idiot on the panel every time he goes on Larry King Live?


Do you mean this one?

Roundtable of guests discussing Roswell and UFOs including George Noory and Michael Shermer on Larry King Live
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xNIWWd62OU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnWNhLCIbLY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhBOVRWWYKA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=in_mWh13suk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tasH_FeQ8ZU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Enrhqamdjs4
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Carol Nistri



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

good going Ken,Hopo is going to gobble these up if he doesnt already have them.
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Bruce Duensing



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is no self existent Mr Shermer as his illusionary identity is prone to deconstruction. He is one place marker on a reality map located somewhere in space time, irretrievably lost with the rest of us on the dark side of the moon, despite the fact he doth protest too much this fact while having nothing in his hand but referential choices to demonstrate his own subjectivity. In his denials he has become a pundit and exemplar of paradox....He needs some yin for his yang when he looks in the mirror. A died in the wool skeptic is a died in the wool believer... Silly games without frontiers?....""Whistling tunes we're kissing baboons in the jungle....It's a knockout...."
There is an old fable which tells that Truth and Falsehood went for a swim together, leaving their clothes on shore. Falsehood
coming out of the water first, puts on Truth’s clothes. Truth, being what it is, absolutely refused to wear Falsehood’s clothes, thus remained naked. Ever since then, Falsehood appearing As Truth, has been accepted as Truth, while Truth still awaits to be seen

ab abusu ad usum non valet consequentia
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Carol Nistri



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

clap clap clap..I love this Bruce,

There is an old fable which tells that Truth and Falsehood went for a swim together, leaving their clothes on shore. Falsehood
coming out of the water first, puts on Truth’s clothes. Truth, being what it is, absolutely refused to wear Falsehood’s clothes, thus remained naked. Ever since then, Falsehood appearing As Truth, has been accepted as Truth, while Truth still awaits to be seen


Ive got to save that one.
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