OK I just watched..

**Carol Nistri** · Joined: 16 Jun 2007 Posts: 3222

Larry King's show on ufos,the one with the Science Guy.Seth Shostack, Stanton Friedman and the producer of Out of the Blue. I dont know if weve got the right group of people for this question but Ill ask it anyway.This show by the way is in two parts,both with the Science Guy,but a different set of panelists.Now Ill have to watch this again in order to know just who it was that came out with the comment,"There not Here to Hurt Us",it may have been Stanton Friedman but Im not sure.I know where all anxious to have the truth of ufos brought to light but was it wise to make this statement "There not Here to Hurt Us" before you know there actual intent? Stanton also said something that was itriguing to say the least. Ive posted this on another board but it got little attention or reaction but Stan has come to the same conclusion. The governments are so bent on holding on to their power that that alone keeps them from revealing anything about aliens or their intent.Ill have to write to Stanton on this but if he believes that humans are being abducted then how could he say they mean us no harm? Creating another race of beings wouldnt be harmful? Well would it? What do you think,if there really are aliens visiting planet earth and if their intent is to create a hybrid of sorts,part us and part them then do you consider the introduction without our permission of another species harmful? Does it make you angry? Do you think these entities are benevolent and if so why? Larry King then asked why dont the aliens themselves reveal that there here? Thats another good question,my answer is rather lenghty so Ill wait to see what you think.

**dr wu23** · Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Posts: 2158 Location: Indiana

I'm not convinced that et's are here visiting nor doing hybrid exps, so for me I guess the question is not that relevant.
I have said before that if advanced aliens did come here I would like to think they would contact us openly as fellow beings of the universe......but many think they would not necessarily do that since they mght have some kind of hostile agenda to humans.
In the end it's all just speculation., and we go round and round on the same topics.
Confused

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**Carol Nistri** · Joined: 16 Jun 2007 Posts: 3222

well theres always the other theory I suppose,the one in which the Trickster has fun with us,Im not in the mood this week for the Trickster,these men last night were all of a mind that were dealing with a nuts and bolts craft,that aliens from elsewhere have found the joint.Now that were on Mars or at least have a probe on Mars the idea that aliens have found there way to earth shouldnt be that hard to accept or imagine.Man,I feel like years and years have been lost just chasing our collective tails on this one.Im settling for its being aliens from another planet,the rest of it just wont digest for me.Now I know what your going to say,your going to say I thought you decided it was demonic.Cant it be both? Cool

**dr wu23** · Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Posts: 2158 Location: Indiana

**Carol Nistri** · Joined: 16 Jun 2007 Posts: 3222

Dr.Wu wrote in part," I do not think any of it is religious os 'supernatural' per se because I do not believe in those paradigms and I just don't see the logic or rationality behind it. And it's not something science could even address."

and yet still its there,why? I think whatever this is is challenging mankind to come after it.To take a chance be brave,cast out all fear that kind of thing. Little does IT know that its now becoming tedious that mankind has other things to worry about such as gas and food. So,lets hear it for the little guys,hip hip go home... ok youse guys,your time is up,whatever you were trying to get makind to do theve run out of steam,there for the most part jaded by the subject,weve gone up and down blind alleyways for years now and everyone has picked up their marbles and gone home,so its over dudes.

Bruce Duensing · Joined: 31 Dec 2007 Posts: 293

The show should have been called "ETs.....Now Thems Fightin Words!.." A pop culture e-x-t-r-a-v-a-g-n-z-a....The wimpy bow tied Mr Science would have gotten his uptight ass kicked by the intense air force guy....(you talkin to me?) while Stanton doggedly clenched his book in front of him like he was Billy Mays or waved zerox paper around as if it were a tent revival meeting for lost causes..... each round was appropriately signaled by the bray of a cow at a flying disk...hot damn....Mr SETI seemed strangely bemused and\or stoned...the whole shebang seemed on the verge of collapse when King was nearly poised to tell the debunkers in slightly watered down language...they were full of BS...egging on the Air Force guy to take a swing at Mr Bow Tie who began squirming in his chair...Are you calling that man a liar?! Very informative if I could remember what was said...I was feeding potato chips to my dog at the time..whoopeee kids...credentials? I got some credentials for ya....right here...whoooaa...Stan....Mr Bow Tie meekly offered he had credentials too...Credentials? we dont need no stinkin credentials...this is TV!

Will Sheephogan · Joined: 22 Sep 2007 Posts: 624 Location: Pahrump Nevada

**Carol Nistri** · Joined: 16 Jun 2007 Posts: 3222

lol,I take it you watched then Bruce. That was a guy named Jacobs the air force guy that wanted to Unscrew Nyes head. Nye btw looked like your typical tongue in cheek skeptic,or at least he tried to,he picked on the wrong guys.This bunch did what should have been done a long time ago,they actually sneered and laughed back at him.If you listen to the arguements coming from both Nye and Shostack there silly really.Both of them Nye and Shostack had those grins wiped off their faces when they realized these guys were going to push back.Nye wont be back Im betting.I like Seth Shostack but for us believers to try to maintain a polite face when they start to giggle is getting tougher to do,in the face of what now is overwhelming evidence.Not hard proof,that doesnt exist.

**dr wu23** · Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Posts: 2158 Location: Indiana

Nice link to a recent Vallee interview....thanks Will.
As always he is a voice of reason and open mindedness yet too many others who are involved with ufos seem to be blind to what is really going on in the larger picture of the ufo enigma.
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"Some say the valley has always been haunted ever since River ran.
The rippling waters fast as the colors conceal the Green Man."
Roy Harpur from The Green Man