The Prosecution of George Bush

**dr wu23** · Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Posts: 2158 Location: Indiana

Vincent Bugliosi and his new book about the crimes of Bush.
Read this excerpt and see if you disagree based on the facts.
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Perhaps the most amazing thing to me about the belief of many that George Bush lied to the American public in starting his war with Iraq is that the liberal columnists who have accused him of doing this merely make this point, and then go on to the next paragraph in their columns. Only very infrequently does a columnist add that because of it Bush should be impeached. If the charges are true, of course Bush should have been impeached, convicted, and removed from office. That's almost too self-evident to state. But he deserves much more than impeachment. I mean, in America, we apparently impeach presidents for having consensual sex outside of marriage and trying to cover it up. If we impeach presidents for that, then if the president takes the country to war on a lie where thousands of American soldiers die horrible, violent deaths and over 100,000 innocent Iraqi civilians, including women and children, even babies are killed, the punishment obviously has to be much, much more severe. That's just common sense. If Bush were impeached, convicted in the Senate, and removed from office, he'd still be a free man, still be able to wake up in the morning with his cup of coffee and freshly squeezed orange juice and read the morning paper, still travel widely and lead a life of privilege, still belong to his country club and get standing ovations whenever he chose to speak to the Republican faithful. This, for being responsible for over 100,000 horrible deaths?* For anyone interested in true justice, impeachment alone would be a joke for what Bush did.

http://www.alternet.org/rights/86232/
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**Skeptical** · Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 6:08 pm Post subject:

I really am surprised that the Democrats never went so far as to try to get impeachment considered. I think there were politics galore being played behind the scenes. Somehow, the Republicans made it sufficiently clear to the Dems that there would be a price to be paid for doing so. Now the $64,000 question is, what could the Republicans possibly have up their sleeve that could cause the Democrats to do this? Must be something pretty serious - don't you think?

One thing to consider, if you impeach Bush, who would take over? Dick Cheney. Now if that isn't a nightmare scenario, I don't know what is.

S
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**Carol Nistri** · Joined: 16 Jun 2007 Posts: 3222

I think somewhere along the way we ought to remember the mindset of America when this was all hatched. We were angry,worse than that we were frightend.We wanted someone to pay for 9/11. It was in our weak moments of both fear and anger that this administration hatched its idea of weapons of mass destruction in order to have an excuse to have a prescense in the middleeast.I sincerely believe that.My own gut was twangy like a banjo when I first heard of Saddam having weapons of mass destruction,I didnt believe it then and I certainly dont believe it now.It was a ruse to have an excuse to move troops into the area.The men responsible for the most part died with those planes that were flown into the pentagon,and the wtcs,for us to have then put the emphasis on capturing Bin Laden would have seemed trivial compared to the destruction and the loss of life on 9/11.We would have looked weak and insipid to the rest of the world.Instead we got shock and awe whose very name made me cringe. As a result thousands of american men and women have lost their lives in Iraq,not to mention the thousands upon thousands of Iraqies that have lost their lives since. The question remains what should have been the right response.Anything less would have made america even more vulnerable to attacks,time has had a healing affect from the days following 9/11,we forget how afraid we were and how angry.Heads got together in Washington and hatched out Shock & Awe and what we thought was going to be revenge,its backfired bigtime.

**Skeptical** · Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 9:21 pm Post subject:

I don't buy the revenge scenario, Carol. It was clear from the beginning that Iraq wasn't responsible for 9/11. I never bought into the WMD scenario either. Yes, Hussein has a bloody, ruthless regime but the world is lousy with them. It made absolutely no sense to start that war.

I'm really surprised that the French haven't piped up and said "We told you so." They're looking pretty goddamn smart right about now.

S
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**dr wu23** · Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Posts: 2158 Location: Indiana

**dr wu23** · Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Posts: 2158 Location: Indiana

I also post at The Road Home which is the old Peanuts gang and I thought this was an interesting reply to my question on why the Dems aren't pushing harder.
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drwu23: "I don't understand why the Dems aren't pushing harder for impeachment."

J March Ohare said: Because the Democrats and the Republicans are just flip-sides of the same utterly corrupt coin.

This probably doesn't occur to the average honest American, but all those people owe the wealth, power, privilege, and virtual coatings of Teflon their phony-baloney jobs bestow upon them to the myth of their legitimacy. In a way, it's like the U.S. economy, which is made up only of smoke, mirrors and momentum, and which can crash in a heartbeat due to panic. Accusing one of their own of serious criminal acts is not an option. (Lying about a blowjob doesn't count as such, and you'll note Sleazy Willy received only a hand-slap in the end.)

We're not talking about a blowjob here. We're talking about the deaths of something like 100,000 people, some 4,000 of which actually count because they were U.S. servicemen. (Jawas don't count.) We're talking about wiping one's ass with the Constitution, about destroying freedom to "save" freedom because the Iraqis "hate our freedom." (How's that for logic?) We're talking illegal arrest and incarceration, torture, murder, and war crimes. We're talking about the legitimacy of the Office of the President of the United States.

Of course it hasn't become illegitimate, because they don't call it that.

"Good" cops that go after corrupt cops get Serpicoed.

Bush is one of their own.
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"Some say the valley has always been haunted ever since River ran.
The rippling waters fast as the colors conceal the Green Man."
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**Carol Nistri** · Joined: 16 Jun 2007 Posts: 3222

good man,and hes right on the money,Ron Paul is looking better every day.Its going to be the same old same old no matter which of these bozos get in.And yes that includes Obama,they will take him into the back room and tell him exactly how its going to be.

**TheScamDetective** · Joined: 15 Jun 2007 Posts: 1334 Location: California

It's way to early to prejudge Obama. All we can do is hope for the best.
I do agree with all of you about Bush and 911!!
The biggest problem now though is that whoever is elected has one HUGE mess on his hands!!
With McCain...it will just be more Bushism (with a bad temper)!!
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**Carol Nistri** · Joined: 16 Jun 2007 Posts: 3222

Well Ill be,Scam,its wonderful to see you back posting,welcome welcome welcome. Very Happy