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Carol Nistri
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 5:46 am Post subject: John Edwards just threw his support to |
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| Obama,I think hes going to be asked to be the V.P. I think McCain will pick Rhomney for his V.P..I hope Ron Paul wins the election.
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Skeptical Site Admin

Joined: 13 Jun 2007 Posts: 1661 Location: Cincinnati, OH
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 9:58 am Post subject: |
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I can't see why the endorsement of a guy who is best known for getting $400 haircuts is such a big deal. I don't doubt that Obama has the nomination in the bag but I think he could do MUCH better in selecting a running mate. He really doesn't need John Edwards. John Edwards really can't help him.
Now, if it were John Edward, the guy from "Crossing Over", well then I might be interested!
S _________________ "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." -- Thomas Jefferson
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Carol Nistri
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 10:16 am Post subject: |
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| honestly Skep,I cant for the life of me get a bead on Obama,I dont know what hes about what he stands for nothing zero zippo. I love his voice,low and melodious,big deal.But couple him with Ron Paul and youve got yourself one heck of a ticket,I know I know Ive a better chance to see whichamacallit freeze over.
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dr wu23

Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Posts: 2254 Location: Indiana
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think there is anything enigmatic about Obama at all. IMO he's a typical democrat who's for social programs ,labor and the working class, and minority issues.
And I think those are all good things but I also want a president who's going to keep the economy strong, lower taxes to the middle class, and get us out of Iraq. If he gets in and does all of those things then I say good for him...but that's a tall order. _________________ "Some say the valley has always been haunted ever since River ran.
The rippling waters fast as the colors conceal the Green Man."
Roy Harpur from The Green Man
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Skeptical Site Admin

Joined: 13 Jun 2007 Posts: 1661 Location: Cincinnati, OH
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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I have to agree with Carol - there's something not quite right about Obama. At least, with Hillary, you know what you're getting. With Obama, I think we are being sold some kind of prepackaged image -- and I'm still not quite sure what lies underneath.
What concerns me is not so much him but who he surrounds himself with. Bush is a perfect example of this - he was pretty much harmless in and of himself - but he was surrounded by people who simply did not have the best interest of the American people and American democracy at heart.
So, it worries me that Obama was associated with Rev. Wright for so long. If this is an example of how President Obama will choose his trusted advisers, perhaps we all need to think three times before we support him.
S _________________ "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." -- Thomas Jefferson
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dr wu23

Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Posts: 2254 Location: Indiana
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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I have to agree with Carol - there's something not quite right about Obama. At least, with Hillary, you know what you're getting. With Obama, I think we are being sold some kind of prepackaged image -- and I'm still not quite sure what lies underneath.
What concerns me is not so much him but who he surrounds himself with. Bush is a perfect example of this - he was pretty much harmless in and of himself - but he was surrounded by people who simply did not have the best interest of the American people and American democracy at heart.
So, it worries me that Obama was associated with Rev. Wright for so long. If this is an example of how President Obama will choose his trusted advisers, perhaps we all need to think three times before we support him.
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There is something not quite right about anyone who wants to be president ...beyond that he's just a liberal democrat imo.
I think the Wright thing has been way way over blown. He was not the trusted advisor every one thought he was according to Obama and I think it's very unfair to tar Obama becasue his pastor has a big mouth in public.
I'd be more concerned about who his real advisors are that will go into the Whitehouse with him. Those are the ones who will be making policy with Obama.
We desperately need real change and we won't get that from McCain. That's a given imo. _________________ "Some say the valley has always been haunted ever since River ran.
The rippling waters fast as the colors conceal the Green Man."
Roy Harpur from The Green Man
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Revan

Joined: 15 Jun 2007 Posts: 139 Location: USA
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Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 11:00 am Post subject: |
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I have to agree with Carol - there's something not quite right about Obama. At least, with Hillary, you know what you're getting. With Obama, I think we are being sold some kind of prepackaged image -- and I'm still not quite sure what lies underneath.
What concerns me is not so much him but who he surrounds himself with. Bush is a perfect example of this - he was pretty much harmless in and of himself - but he was surrounded by people who simply did not have the best interest of the American people and American democracy at heart.
So, it worries me that Obama was associated with Rev. Wright for so long. If this is an example of how President Obama will choose his trusted advisers, perhaps we all need to think three times before we support him.
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No matter who wins, We The People, will lose. Bottom line. _________________ http://www.ufoalley.net
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paulkimball

Joined: 22 Jun 2007 Posts: 136 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia
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Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 2:53 am Post subject: |
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| Carol Nistri wrote: |
| honestly Skep,I cant for the life of me get a bead on Obama,I dont know what hes about what he stands for nothing zero zippo. I love his voice,low and melodious,big deal.But couple him with Ron Paul and youve got yourself one heck of a ticket,I know I know Ive a better chance to see whichamacallit freeze over. |
Carol,
Ron Paul?
Do you actually know what he stands for??
Paul
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Skeptical Site Admin

Joined: 13 Jun 2007 Posts: 1661 Location: Cincinnati, OH
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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I think it is a mistake to paint McCain as "more of the same." I think there would be significant differences between a Bush and a McCain White House (no Dick Cheney for starters...). McCain is definitely a moderate. He has great respect on both sides on the aisle in Congress. There is no one who could begin to question his commitment to this country. The only thing he really has going against him is his age.
I think McCain need to take particular care in choosing a running mate. Perhaps, more than any candidate since Reagan, he is choosing a potential successor. My own preference is Mitt Romney but the Republican National Committee never takes my advice.
S _________________ "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." -- Thomas Jefferson
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dr wu23

Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Posts: 2254 Location: Indiana
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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I think it is a mistake to paint McCain as "more of the same." I think there would be significant differences between a Bush and a McCain White House (no Dick Cheney for starters...). McCain is definitely a moderate. He has great respect on both sides on the aisle in Congress. There is no one who could begin to question his commitment to this country. The only thing he really has going against him is his age.
I think McCain need to take particular care in choosing a running mate. Perhaps, more than any candidate since Reagan, he is choosing a potential successor. My own preference is Mitt Romney but the Republican National Committee never takes my advice.
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I disagree....what a surprise.
IMO he is just the same as Bush on most of the big issues and is a typical conservative on most others. He will not bring any meaningful change to the country and we need real change not conservative family values sh-t. _________________ "Some say the valley has always been haunted ever since River ran.
The rippling waters fast as the colors conceal the Green Man."
Roy Harpur from The Green Man
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ImzadiR
Joined: 19 May 2008 Posts: 3
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 3:53 pm Post subject: OBAMA |
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Hello. I just found your forum.
Obama is just what this country needs. I am Black, and also an abductee. I have been changed genetically back and forth between Black and White.
It is not a "coincidence" that Sen. Obama is the FIRST Black man who has a real chance of becoming president of the USA at the SAME TIME that I have the ET connection. I don't know the connection YET, but I will soon. If we are going to have disclosure, who better than a Black man who knows how to deal with "people" (ETs) who look different?
Also, people across the world will look more favorably on the USA if we have a Non-White president for awhile. Most of the people in the world are PEOPLE OF COLOR. They are AWARE of the USA being a somewhat racist country.
Also, Obama is a good role model.
No doubt about his PATRIOTISM. HE IS PUTTING HIS LIFE ON THE LINE TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT! (The OTHERS aren't.)
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Skeptical Site Admin

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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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Welcome to Department 47, ImzadiR. Not sure I follow your arguments on this but if Obama makes you feel better about this country, then I can certainly respect your support of his candidacy.
I sometimes think that the Presidency has become somewhat superfluous in this global village of ours. I seriously wonder if anything will change, regardless of who the next tenant is at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
S _________________ "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." -- Thomas Jefferson
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paulkimball

Joined: 22 Jun 2007 Posts: 136 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia
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Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 8:13 am Post subject: |
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I think it is a mistake to paint McCain as "more of the same." I think there would be significant differences between a Bush and a McCain White House (no Dick Cheney for starters...). McCain is definitely a moderate. He has great respect on both sides on the aisle in Congress. There is no one who could begin to question his commitment to this country. The only thing he really has going against him is his age.
I think McCain need to take particular care in choosing a running mate. Perhaps, more than any candidate since Reagan, he is choosing a potential successor. My own preference is Mitt Romney but the Republican National Committee never takes my advice.
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I disagree....what a surprise.
IMO he is just the same as Bush on most of the big issues and is a typical conservative on most others. He will not bring any meaningful change to the country and we need real change not conservative family values sh-t. |
I agree with you both, to a point. McCain is moderate on some key issues (well, "moderate" by American standards, which to the rest of us is pretty right wing), and a maverick (vis-a-vis Republican orthodoxy) on others, like immigration, but there's no question that he is at his core a conservative, although to paint him as a Bush clone is far too simple-minded, just as it's simple minded, as some Hillary Clinton supporters have done lately, to paint Obama as a Michael Dukakis or George McGovern clone who will get clobbered in the general election.
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Carol Nistri
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Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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I sure like Ron Paul his views just make good sense,of course he wont get elected because of it,but here give a listen this guy thinks with common sense.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=FG2PUZoukfA
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