The Colleen Johnston diaries..

**Carol Nistri** · Joined: 16 Jun 2007 Posts: 3354

have you ever heard of her Jeremy?

http://www.maar.us/colleens_articles_page1.html

Jeremy Vaeni · Joined: 27 Jul 2007 Posts: 471 Location: New York

nope. But looks interesting. Thanks for posting it.
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Jeremy Vaeni · Joined: 27 Jul 2007 Posts: 471 Location: New York

I've yet to meet anyone sane who has told me about reptilians.
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**Carol Nistri** · Joined: 16 Jun 2007 Posts: 3354

good for her,heres one abductee thats got it straight.

"Beings with spiritual understanding or a genuine love for humanity would not have to operate in such clandestine fashion. They should also recognize someone's true spiritual awareness and genuine desire to learn how to help humanity revolutionize its ills. I have experienced none of the above, with these captors. Quite the contrary, it has been more akin to concentration camp like behavior with indifferent, unsympathetic entities that have their own malevolent priories and a hidden possibly sinister agenda. "

Jeremy Vaeni · Joined: 27 Jul 2007 Posts: 471 Location: New York

**Carol Nistri** · Joined: 16 Jun 2007 Posts: 3354

Demolish its sense of self,Jer,dont believe them.Im not kidding there trying to mess with your head and they may very well have there own agenda.If you 'demolish you sense of self' then its got to be replaced with something,whats that something Jer?

Jeremy Vaeni · Joined: 27 Jul 2007 Posts: 471 Location: New York

"They" didn't tell me this. This is the core of every main religion/form of spirituality on the planet. Of course the Christians say "Die to Jesus." They give you an object to die into who provides comfort and love, which is yet another illusion. But the act of dying while alive is the core of it and of all of them. We've been giving ourselves this message since the beginning of societies. I used to think as Paul does, which is why I'm picking on him. I thought it was all some (boring, in my case) thing to study. Cultural delusions to explain existence and all that. And the surface stuff can be that--the myths, the lore, etc....But this core thing is real. Dying while alive reorganizes you. Don't need aliens to tell ya that.

EDIT: My point in this is to say that we're just as wrong to call the states and stages of consciousness a study as we are to call them a belief. They're either "real" or they aren't. If they are real, are they limited to the human mind or are they universal? If universal then does every sentient creature reach up and out in the same way? What would be the pinnacle of that?
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**Carol Nistri** · Joined: 16 Jun 2007 Posts: 3354

what about all of us simple minded people,are we supposed to be excluded because we dont get it,in some ways I do,I think the very first thing I can remember someone saying is The Simple Things Are The Best Things,I still think so.

**dr wu23** · Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Posts: 2297 Location: Indiana

Will Sheephogan · Joined: 22 Sep 2007 Posts: 624 Location: Pahrump Nevada

Unfortunately intelligence and technological advancement have nothing to do with "enlightenment". Yes, the reptilian, insectoid, or hive brain could prey upon all other life forms for their own gain. I hardly think they have been here though, we are way too soft and easy. Even if you account the murderous nature of mankind as a whole. We would have been devoured or farmed long long ago.
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**Carol Nistri** · Joined: 16 Jun 2007 Posts: 3354

"Even if you account the murderous nature of mankind as a whole. We would have been devoured or farmed long long ago".

I dont think the majority of mankind is like that at all,we all want the same things.We want to live in peace and by in large not hurt anyone along the way.I know that sounds pollyanna but its true,we dont get ourselves into situations in which we have to fight our way out.Our leaders and the leaders of all other countries do.

Bruce Duensing · Joined: 31 Dec 2007 Posts: 379

**Carol Nistri** · Joined: 16 Jun 2007 Posts: 3354

Bruce said in part,"I think it is meant to upend and deconstruct our models of consensus reality. You can either view this as a threat or a godsend. I think it is no accident that anything you try to apply to it bounces back off. It clearly transcends any category we try to file it under. It is a threat to power structures..to consensus reality....that draw us into being victims or cannon fodder....I think we have met the enemy and they are us.
It has placed the question of our reality up there on a par with our behavior as it is demonstrated in our current history...and our ingrained beliefs that drive it."

Bruce in your opinion,is this meant for the common man,or is it geared to a selected few,have you ever run across a group of like minded people that get this?

**Carol Nistri** · Joined: 16 Jun 2007 Posts: 3354

Dr.Wu said in part,"There have been cults/offshoots who have taken what some call the left hand path (a darker one) but that was neevr the intention of the original paths. IMO any one or group who does it this way is missing the point entirely and that would include our Visitors."
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Wouldnt it be something that IF dispite our having gone up every back alley in this maddening quest for some kind of truth that its been right in front of us all along. What if the Vistiors knows of mans curious belief that theres life after death. What if thats what there trying to accomplish,that there trying to include their own species in with ours in order to also obtain a soul and have life everlasting after death? Now that could very well be of the utmost importance to them.Maybe they too are looking at 2012 or maybe they too wonder what happens if anything after this life is over.