Ok Spooky news from C2C,

**Carol Nistri** · Joined: 16 Jun 2007 Posts: 3283

last night I woke to catch C2C,it was one of there better shows I must say. George Noory asked the guest about Budd Hopkins and Dr.Jacobs,these two men have hypnotized many an abdcutee yet they came away with very different opinions about why the Visitors are here,as a result they were never on the same path,but get this,last night the guest revealved that now Budd Hopkins whos been um,pro-alien has come over to Dr.Jacobs way of thinking,that is there there not benevolent at all,that this entire scenerio is very disturbing to say the least.It was a very good show,one Id listen to again if it presents itself.

**dr wu23** · Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Posts: 2245 Location: Indiana

It is disturbing if people are really being 'abducted' but we just don't know that for a fact. We have nothing to go on but verbal testimony and by their own admission, the 'abductees', many were in quasi sleep or hypnotized states and dn't even recall details until hypnosis. What do we really know for sure?
I think it's jumping the gun to assume nefarious aliens are here to enslave or alter us for some evil agenda . When people like Hopkins and Jacobs say things like that are truth , I worry about their mindset.
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Jeremy Vaeni · Joined: 27 Jul 2007 Posts: 465 Location: New York

When did Budd Hopkins ever think they were benevolent? He's always maintained that they are either indifferent at best or malevolent at worst, and usually leaned toward malevolent.
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**Carol Nistri** · Joined: 16 Jun 2007 Posts: 3283

well,I for one have got to wonder where we fit in all of this. I dont believe that ufos are being seen all over the world in even remote countries and they have no purpose.That there merely buzzing the joint on an endless joy ride. Were in the eqation somewhere,and there endless cat and mouse games keeps us distracted while not zeroed in. Ever wonder about that? We seem to focus on the innocent part of all this,the exciting part,but when it gets down to goosebump time even the staunchist believer will start to whistle in the dark.I know we cant do anything about what is or isnt happening ,but the not knowing and the waiting isnt for me.Whos going to take a stab at this,go ahead,just set down what you possibly think this is all about,it wont be to wild not anymore it wont,cripes ,people being floated thru walls,ufos morphing,I dont think I can be shocked anymore.

HopoUK · Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 7:26 pm Post subject:

Well, I think that a lot of the abduction cases come about from sleep paralysis, or just vivid dreams. Yes there are cases of people being taken from their vehicles, but most revovle around the bedroom, and being pulled through walls is just too far fetched IMO.

I must admit that I'm worried as to why they abduct humans, with experiments at the top of that list. They don't seem to be bothered that doing that is terrifying, and extremely painful to us. If they were, they would have included some form of anesthetic or pain relief, but the cases I have heard about they never do. It seems that they view us a lower lifeform, and as such, not worth caring about beyond the experiment, just like we humans do with lab animals.

One theory is genetics. That they don't have reproductive organs, and as such, they can only reproduce through cloning or hybridisation. So they take samples or impregnate women to try and expand their race. We've all heard of the Brazilian farmer, Antonio Vilas Boas, claiming to have mated with an alien/human hybrid. So could these hybrids also be slaves?

Another is mind control, with the implants preparing us for the day they come and take over. Although how they could do that to 3 billion people is beyond me, and probably the least likely.

However, if these cases are true, it is a worrying time for all of us.

Jeremy Vaeni · Joined: 27 Jul 2007 Posts: 465 Location: New York

So it's just the setting that makes it far fetched?
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**Carol Nistri** · Joined: 16 Jun 2007 Posts: 3283

What do you mean Jer,I dont understand.

HopoUK · Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 8:10 am Post subject:

No Jer. The being pulled through the walls seem far fetched to me. It is impossible IMO. That's why it's leads me to think that they are just dreams.

**Carol Nistri** · Joined: 16 Jun 2007 Posts: 3283

Hopo,that dream thing got me thinking.How many of us have had vivid dreams? Just about all of us Im thinking. But when we wake,when we get on with the day its apparent almost immediately that it was nothing more than a dream,isnt that right? But with these people and eliminating mental distrubances they cant shake what they believe theve experienced.It never occurs to them that it was all just a dream. This 'dream' doesnt fade as with most dreams,it stays with them,not only thru the day but forever. They make appointments with physcologists,they subject themselves to the John Macks of the world and still the 'dream'doesnt go away. With most people,dreams fade upon waking,by midafternoon no matter how real it seemed the dream just natually fades away,except with people that believe theve been abducted.That humans are being used for experiments doesnt surprise me and shouldnt surprise us in the least.Its exactly the kind of thing we would do should we find any other species on another planet.We would take blood samples,tissue samples etc.The experiments would be endless.Yet the fact that we humans are being experimented on meets a steel wall,that couldnt be,not us were humans,master of our world. Cept when we meet up with badder dudes.