A ghostly encounter?

HopoUK · Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:00 pm Post subject: A ghostly encounter?

The only personal account that I can say was weird, apart from my UFO sighting, was about 22 years ago.

I was with my then girlfriend and her sister and nephew. Her nephew was about 4 years old. We were all having a cup of tea when the nephew stood up, and said " Grandad! ", and held up his arms as if he wanted to be picked up. Then he walked through to the kitchen still calling out to his Grandad. Problem was, his grandad died years before, and the boy had never met him.

My girlfriend and sister were shocked and a little scared about this as you can imagine. They were saying that children can see things that adults cannot, you know, the usual stuff. I must admit, it did raise the hairs on the back of my neck, but it still didn't make me believe in ghosts, or spirits. Still, it was a weird experience to say the least. Shocked

**Carol Nistri** · Joined: 16 Jun 2007 Posts: 3283

Hopo,today on the Dr.Phil show came a story of a women that thinks she being haunted by a small boy.It had to be one of the wierdest shows Ive ever seen.To hear this woman talk she sounded as sane and solid as could be.But they also had footage of her sleeping all propped up with pillows and a book over the top of her head to keep from being 'shocked' by the boy ghost when he got angry. It was weird and so unlike the doctors usual show.I read somewhere where a huge number of people believe in ghosts,Ive never seen one either.

HopoUK · Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 4:52 pm Post subject:

Well, you know what they say, " seeing is believing ", so until that day comes, if ever, I still won't believe. I like to think that there is an afterlife, but IMO, once you die, that's it. Gone. Finished. No more conciousness.

**Skeptical** · Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 9:15 am Post subject:

There is a local radio personality here in Cincinnati who will periodically tell of the experience he had. He was sitting, watching television on evening several years ago. As he watched, he saw a reflection in the glass of the TV screen. He could see a woman and a small child, both apparently dressed in old-fashioned clothes, walk across the room. He quickly looked behind him only to find the room empty. His wife was the only other person in the house and she was in the kitchen preparing dinner.

Now, perhaps it was momentary bleed-over from another television channel but it was apparently a one-time-only occurrence. The television never experienced any other problems that would indicate this was a technical difficulty of some type.

That strikes me as a "film-loop" type of apparition. No apparent intelligence involved - just a replay of some prosaic event that was "recorded" at some point in the past.

S
_________________
"A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." -- Thomas Jefferson

HopoUK · Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 7:42 pm Post subject:

You know, I've often thought that if real, could ghosts be actual recordings of the past? Glad to see that others think the same as me.
Oh and: Glory, Glory, Man United! Champions of Europe! Yesssssss!

**Skeptical** · Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 1:02 pm Post subject:

The other idea I had was that time is not linear and that, periodically, moments in time will intersect and we will catch glimpses into the past. Who knows, perhaps UFO sightings are momentary glimpses of the future. Confused

S
_________________
"A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." -- Thomas Jefferson

**dr wu23** · Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Posts: 2245 Location: Indiana

I have never believed that spirits of the dead walk the earth...I don't even really believe in souls per se.
My impression is that they could be glltches in the quantum reality time line . Many leading physicists do not think time is linear and that it exists all at the same time but due to human consciousness limitations we just don't see it that way.
At certain moments there is an interphase and other times bleed through for a moment. That's when people see 'ghosts'...just like ghost images on television or film that is double exposed.
_________________
"Some say the valley has always been haunted ever since River ran.
The rippling waters fast as the colors conceal the Green Man."
Roy Harpur from The Green Man

**Carol Nistri** · Joined: 16 Jun 2007 Posts: 3283

then how do you account for haunted houses Dr.Wu? Theres even a law saying that if your house is haunted and you put it on the market you have to inform the new owners that it is haunted,sounds to me like many many people have taken this business very seriously.

Here Dr.Wu when you get a chance read this.

http://www.realtown.com/articles/view/haunted-real-estate-a-primer-for-real-estate-agents

**dr wu23** · Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Posts: 2245 Location: Indiana

roadghost · Joined: 08 Aug 2007 Posts: 148

I do believe in spirits (for want of a btter word,0 I also believe they sometimes interact with the living for whatever reason. A lot of hauntings though, don't have an interactive quality and seem to be more recordings of events as speculated in the stone tape theory, I also think time slips and interdimensional states may play a part with ghost sightings. Some of the more extreme poltergiest cases seem to suggest this with something playing a part for maximum effect, ie like the trickster.
_________________
Now we must praise the keeper of the heavenly kingdom
The power of the Measurer and his mind-thoughts,
The work of the glory-father; as he, each of wonders,
the eternal Lord, established from the beginning.

Caedmons Hymn

**Skeptical** · Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 4:13 pm Post subject:

The Trickster concept always leads me around to the question of motive. Why would any entity exist just to bedevil human beings? Maybe it's like that old Star Trek episode - are strong fear emotions as displayed by humans somehow "edible"?

S
_________________
"A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." -- Thomas Jefferson

roadghost · Joined: 08 Aug 2007 Posts: 148

**dr wu23** · Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Posts: 2245 Location: Indiana

**Carol Nistri** · Joined: 16 Jun 2007 Posts: 3283

hmm,I wonder.Doesnt it seem that certain personalities are never bothered with the paranormal? Like tough guys,or the no nonsense types,not that everyone that sees a ghost or a ufo is not tough but it seems as if youve got to be a bit vulnerable,wait,my husband was right besides me when we saw those ufos,hes not vulnerable,yet again yes he is,hmm.