A website I found that may be of interest to others.

Dick Afflis

I search other websites and always check the links section and I found this one. I am posting the link because I would like other forum members
to look at it and read what he has written about 2 secret missions to the moon after we stopped going there. I thought about it and find it feasible, because in one of the videos is the Russian cosmonaut that was member of one of the flights and it supposedly shows him wearing an astronaut suit not a cosmonaut suit. He is also a well known cosmonaut who is still alive and living in Russia. Not all the videos have been uploaded to Youtube yet but he said he will soon. Anyway ,with an open mind take a look. Please remember the guys who's website it is, is Italian and the person he is corresponding to about this was not a native American speaker and hasn't spoken English daily since he moved out of the states, so there are a lot of grammatical errors, but it is readable.

The link to the site is here:

http://www.angelismarriti.it/

The link to the videos on Youtube is here:

http://tinyurl.com/2bs4cd

**dr wu23** · Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Posts: 2158 Location: Indiana

I haven't read the link yet but it seems difficult to think they could send up a manned flight on a rocket without astronomers and amateurs seeing it in flight. Many people regularly watch the skies and someone would have probably caught it and reported it.
And wherever they sent the original rocket and capsule up would have been seen for miles by anyone that day or night in the vicinity.....wouldn't they?
Idea

Dick Afflis · Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 12:38 am Post subject:

My friend, if you would read the article, they used Vandenberg, AFB on the coast of California. A lot of people in the general population don't realize that the U.S. government has more than one place they shoot rockets into outer space. They use Vandenberg AFB and also White Sands in New Mexico. The local television stations here where I live announce it and the radio stations do also. But Vandenberg is not KSC there is no viewing area with stands set up.The area is about 40 miles from the nearest town Lompoc. If you were viewing it from my location,you could not tell if it was an ICBM or a larger rocket and it depends on what time they shot it also. This was where the west coast spaceport, where the shuttle fleet for the military was going to be until Carter cut it's funding. They also use to pull minutemen missiles out of silos and ship them here and put them in their silo and launched them out toward Johnston atoll in the Pacific just to see if they still worked. Our government is very capable of doing a LOT of things that they don't want anybody to know about, you will have to believe on that one I could write a book on the things I have seen and know about. I believe this is actually feasible that they could have done this. I know it is very difficult for most members of this forum to comprehend that our government would do things in secret and it never is put in to the public knowledge but after 20 years in the military ,with the last 10 holding a DOD secret clearance and a DOE "Q" clearance I just take it for granted.

**dr wu23** · Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Posts: 2158 Location: Indiana

If an isolated launch site was used it could be done without much notice though it might still be seen by various astronomers if they were scanning that part of the sky.
Since you claim to have had 'clearance' before and some general knowledge of these matters (BTW,no offense intended but your profile here says nothing about you and on a message board it's hard to know who someone really is) , do you know where the military/spy satelllites are launched from?

**Skeptical** · Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 6:34 pm Post subject:

It's pretty common knowledge that Vandenberg AFB has been used as a rocket launch site for years. People who watch such things may actually watch these secondary launch sites more closely than they do the Cape - seems to me the really "interesting" stuff would launch from there. If you are talking about a manned Apollo mission, you are talking about a Saturn V heavy-lift vehicle and you are talking about a high visibility event. The launch would be visible for any number of miles and would even register on seismographs. I'm not saying NASA couldn't sneak one in, but that would be quite a light to try to hide under a bushel basket.

As for the video, it ought to bear at least a passing resemblance to the many miles of footage NASA crews shot in ptior flights to the Moon. To my eye it looks nothing like it - it doesn't look like film and it doesn't look like 70's vintage video tape. It just looks fake. Why would any astronaut waste film taking a shot of the Mission patch? The only reason for that is for a hoaxer to use it to establish the reality of the "mission."

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