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Code-9

Joined: 10 Oct 2007 Posts: 40
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 5:30 am Post subject: Ouija Calling ET: Do you copy? |
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Hey all -
I invite you to read about one of the strangest Ouija board experiences ever. It even includes a possible alien abduction element.
It was a series of sessions I had, along with two other people.
I wrote it up as a 7-part article that is posted here:
http://www.authorsden.com/visit/viewarticles_all.asp?Authorid=66306
Enjoy!  _________________ Gary Val Tenuta
Author of THE EZEKIEL CODE
www.ezekielcode.com
2012 is coming...
The clock is ticking...
The code must be deciphered...
And only one man can save the planet...
If he can just figure out how - before it's too late.
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Skeptical Site Admin

Joined: 13 Jun 2007 Posts: 1644 Location: Cincinnati, OH
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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I never quite know what to make of Ouija boards. I haven't tried one since college and I don't recall any particularly memorable revelations. Frankly, I was never really convinced that one or the other person with their hands on the planchette wasn't actually moving it - perhaps subconsciously.
The only oddity in my experience is that, back when she was a teenager, Mrs. Skeptical asked a Ouija board to give her the initials of the man she would marry. It gave her my initials (we didn't meet until years later). During the same session, the board told her she would become the mother of two girls, also correct. Obviously, that is well within the bounds of coincidence but I've often wondered if Ouija boards allow us to focus our minds and tap into the Keelian superspectrum.
S _________________ "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." -- Thomas Jefferson
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roadghost

Joined: 08 Aug 2007 Posts: 148
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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm afraid the ouija brings out the fearful bog irish peasant in me, not least for the amount of disturbing stories friends and aquaintences have recounted over the years. Wether it's low spirits, tricksters or just some self destructive sub conscious mechanism at work I don't think they're a good idea.
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dr wu23

Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Posts: 2245 Location: Indiana
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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I tend to agree w ith Skeptical here in that the Ouija board does nothing in and of itself. First off..it's an invented game that is only based on old divination ideas and not some ancient occult device.
I think things like the board can focus the minds of natural psychics and others to tap into the holographic universe/quantum reality or whatever you want to call IT. _________________ "Some say the valley has always been haunted ever since River ran.
The rippling waters fast as the colors conceal the Green Man."
Roy Harpur from The Green Man
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Carol Nistri
Joined: 16 Jun 2007 Posts: 3283
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Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 6:26 am Post subject: |
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| Skeptical I had a similar experience as your wife. Once when I was working a gal named Lynn was picked to sit and do a Ouji board someone had brought into the office. They actually waited till I came back from lunch and picked me to be the other player.I had heard next to zero about these booards. We sat down placed our fingertips on the little cardboard thigamajig and she asked me to ask a question. I asked What is the name of the man I will marry. The darned thing started to move. I laughed and told Lynn she was doing it,she said no it was me. Well the little cardborad spelt out R-A-Y-M-O-N-D. Raymond. I didnt know anyone by that name and I still dont. Then a year or so later my husband came to work at the same place and we were married about a year and a half later. Where did we move. 40 Raymond Road South Windsor Ct.,Its the same place I had my ufo sighting btw,a few years later.
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White Rabbit

Joined: 24 Mar 2008 Posts: 94
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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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| To test a ouija board just do it blindfolded and see what you get. Er, have an observer see what you get.
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Carol Nistri
Joined: 16 Jun 2007 Posts: 3283
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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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| well now thats a good Idea White Rabbitt,but now I wouldnt go near one,too much spooky stuff has been conected to them.
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White Rabbit

Joined: 24 Mar 2008 Posts: 94
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Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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There is absolutely nothing spooky about a ouija board, or there needn't be I should say, because any spookiness is injected by the beliefs of the spooked person. It's made of cardboard paper and plastic and you can buy one at any toy store, and pretty much only at toy stores which is a clue in itself.
Played as directed, the seemingly spooky effects are a result of the ideomotor effect, a combination of the two players pushing it around. It's the same effect responsible for dowsing and facilitated communication. If the effect is the result of spirits guiding the hands of the players then it shouldn't matter if the players can see or not. But, when you blindfold the players the effect totally disappears, you get jibberish: YKVUFWAVQ
As for the spookiness, we could try this elaborate test: Take a quija board to some area of the world or to some people somewhere who've somehow never heard of a ouija board, have no idea what it's supposed to be, or do, nor how it does it. We change the set up story. Instead of claiming it is the spirits of the dead that guide the planchette around the board, we tell them it's the work of invisible angels or whatever supergood entity exists among our new people in the test. The ideomotor effect will make it seem to work in a mysterious way. The new set up story will make it not a spooky experience, but a wondrous experience, a blessed experience, a positive experience, because we've told them it's the work of angels, not spirits or demons or other negative entity.
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Carol Nistri
Joined: 16 Jun 2007 Posts: 3283
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Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 5:41 am Post subject: |
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| well your right of course,however my paper the Hartford Courant ran a story some years back that had everyone talking.There was a girl in the next town whos boyfriend had been killed in a car accident. I dont remember the details but she ended up agreeing to try to contact him thru a Ouji board.It went very badly.The entire point of this article was to tell people NOT to play with the Ouji board.For some people they can and do conjure up spirts.I know that sounds silly but let me see if I can find the article.
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Skeptical Site Admin

Joined: 13 Jun 2007 Posts: 1644 Location: Cincinnati, OH
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Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 9:15 am Post subject: |
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Rabbit - I'm no believer in Ouija boards but I imagine that someone who is could argue that the "entities" attempting to communicate may not actually be able to see this world on their own. Perhaps the only visual access they have to this plane of existence is through the eyes of the people operating the board. If they can't see, well then neither can the spirits.
Again, I think Ouija boards work because the people using them make them work. But if you put all possibilities on the table, a blindfold may not necessarily be the ultimate acid test.
S _________________ "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." -- Thomas Jefferson
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White Rabbit

Joined: 24 Mar 2008 Posts: 94
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Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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Well, if you are willing to conjure up (pun intended) mechanisms for how and why it works, mechanisms that have no evidence to suggest them other than the suggested mechanisms allow an end run around natural explanations that actually work, you are basically doing nothing more than moving the whole experience into the unfalsifiable zone, therefore impervious to any explanation because you can always add another layer of magic. It renders bothering to consider what's going on pointless.
As I stated, I'm about 100% sure that when you blindfold the players, it doesn't work. I think the idea that one is also blinding the ethereal, noncorporeal spirits working through the players is nonsense, an excuse. Most people who play the game do not come away amazed, nor even amused for long. It's a kid's game. Since a lot of people believe it works, and that elements of 'evil', whatever that is, are involved, they sit down to play already spooked and primely set up to fulfill their own prophesy, so to speak, their own expectations that evil is about to happen.
If it was a true device to communicate with the 'other world', why are 99% of ouija boards sold in toy stores? Why aren't all the entities with huge investment (both spiritual and financial) in the spirit world promoting them instead of WalMart and Toys R Us?
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Carol Nistri
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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| It seems with all this paranormal stuff the human mind plays a major role,unwittingly or not.
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White Rabbit

Joined: 24 Mar 2008 Posts: 94
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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| So far, it's the only contributor that's been fully proved scientifically.
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