Bigfoot shot back in 1960s

**Skeptical** · Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 6:19 pm Post subject: Bigfoot shot back in 1960s

There is a tempest a'brewin in the Bigfoot camp. There's a new story saying that a Bigfoot may have been shot back in 1967. Loren Coleman over at Cryptomundo has all the details:

http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/bf-massacre/

BTW, Cryptomundo doesn't seem to function very well when you are using a Firefox browser. It seems to work fine with IE though.

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**dr wu23** · Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Posts: 2158 Location: Indiana

I forget who wrote this book about bigfoot some years back but he claimed there was one shot in the late 1800's or early 1900's also and many saw it at the time.
I'll try and find a link.
There were several but I couldn't find the one I recall reading about.
http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/photo-dead-bigfoot2/
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stareater · Joined: 26 Feb 2008 Posts: 26

Wow, that's just crazy, crazy stuff. I guess they're just going for broke. It all wild nonsense to me. To expand on a story that is already highly improbable by saying there was an attack by a pack of the creatures is insane. Yeah, at times the Cryptomundo page fights with Firefox. You'll click a link and it just goes to an empty page on the site.

**dr wu23** · Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Posts: 2158 Location: Indiana

The interesting thing about 'Bigfoot' sightings is that it goes back many many years and several tribes of Native American Indians have names for the creature, Sasquatch being one of them.
They are also reported by people in other lands like Asia, China, Russia and of course the Yeti in the Himalayas.
If these things are not real then what are people seeing? I have a hard time thinking Indians, who lived day to day alongside nature , would mistake a bear for a bipedal creature. Or are we dealing with paranormal creatures that exist in some other manner?
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**Skeptical** · Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 7:48 pm Post subject:

I wish that the American Indians would have had some written record of these old Bigfoot encounters. Because they are based solely in oral tradition, it's very hard to tell how much the story has been changed or improved with successive retellings. I am always leery of us molding a story to fit a particular frame of reference. This has certainly happened in the UFO arena (there was a book written in the 18th century by a Shaker woman that UFO buffs are now trying to pass off as a surreal alien abduction account).

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**dr wu23** · Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Posts: 2158 Location: Indiana

stareater · Joined: 26 Feb 2008 Posts: 26

I think a lot of tales about such creatures can be chalked up to cultural legend and superstition. It's not a far stretch to believe that Native Americans may have mistaken a bear for something strange or embellished a bear sighting into a supernatural experience. It's not like their history isn't full of myth and legend. I look at the it same way you can look at the Loch Ness Monster; hundreds of sightings from credible witnesses doesn't mean nor prove that they saw a monster. History has it that St. Columba admonished Nessie for attacking a man in the loch and drove the beast away. As romantic as that sounds, I'd say it was created in the imagination of a scribe and didn't really happen. People insist, whether intentionally or mistakenly, that photographs of logs, waves, dogs, and all kinds of other things are Nessie and I'm sure the same goes for bigfoot. Unless we actually see one for ourselves, or irrefutable evidence of a corpse is presented, it's a hard sell.

**Skeptical** · Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 6:32 pm Post subject:

OK - this story that Loren Coleman has been following is getting a little weird. Apparently requests are being made that the District Attorney responsibility for the area in which the original Patterson Bigfoot film was taken to open an investigation of the case. The allegation is that the image on the film was not a Bigfoot but a human with an affliction called hypertrichosis. The uptake is that this person or persons so afflicted were later killed. Here's the letter as presented on Coleman's website, Cryptomundo:

"June 14, 2008

Dear Mr. Gallegos,

It has become necessary to correspond with you as a number of questions have arisen over newly developed material from the film which Roger Patterson and Bob Gimlin took in the Bluff Creek area of Humboldt County back on October 20, 1967.

A number of photographic experts have re-examined clarified images from the film, along with several animal experts, and concluded that the “animal” pictured in the film was actually a person afflicted with congenital generalized Hypertrichosis. Hypertrichosis is a medical term referring to a condition that exhibits as excessive body hair, the so-called werewolf syndrome, such as afflicts the now famous Mexican Wolf Boy.

In addition to this determination, there is increasing photographic evidence that the person, or possibly persons, so afflicted were shot and killed by others in the Patterson/Gimlin party who remain unnamed by Mr. Gimlin who survives Robert Patterson.

While circumstantial, there are additional inconsistencies in the account of the events that suggest there is something more to the story than has been revealed by those involved.

Having been associated with the analysis work of two of the photographic experts examining the film, Mr. Marlon Davis and Mr. John Johnsen, I am compelled to contact you to avoid any hint of complicity in failing to inform the authorities of these potentially criminal acts.

I would suggest that it would be prudent for your office to initiate an investigation into this matter in order to ascertain the actual facts surrounding this event and determine if criminal prosecution proceedings should be initiated.

Please feel free to contact me for additional details, due diligence sources and information regarding the researchers who have discovered the material in question.

Regards,

Scott Marlowe
Pangea Institute
514 Winter Terrace
Winter Haven, FL 33881"

I am not sure where this whole story got started but I'd hate to think that human beings were shot down simply because they had a genetic disorder. Anything is possible - and no one ever lost money betting on how inhuman people can be to one another.

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**TheScamDetective** · Joined: 15 Jun 2007 Posts: 1334 Location: California

Skep
I would think that if that were a human with that condition, they would still be wearing clothes.
Plus, had anyone reported anyone with that condition missing around that time?
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**Skeptical** · Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 6:55 pm Post subject:

Good point, Scam. You wouldn't think that anyone in this country would be run out of society to live like animals, regardless of their appearance. I'm just not sure what to make of all of this. The waters get so muddied in these cases that, after a while that, if there was a kernel of truth in there, it's going to be really difficult to spot.

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