Barak Obama the Anti-Christ?

**Carol Nistri** · Joined: 16 Jun 2007 Posts: 3226

now stop laughing,yesterday on my way home I had on a radio station out of New York.There were two radio hosts talking to each other from Texas and New York,the subject was Obama.One was saying to the other that Barak Obama met the requirements the bible gives of the Anti-Christ.A caller called the show and the radio host quickly dendied that thats what he actually said. Then I got home and posted it over on Snowville,did you know there is now a website thats devoted itself to this bull,well there is here look and read for yourself,the sad part is many will actually be taken in by this and it will gather speed,its funny this came out the day before the McCain scandel.

http://www.barackobamaantichrist.blogspot.com/

gobbledeegook says I.

**dr wu23** · Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Posts: 2158 Location: Indiana

More nonsense from the Christian right....., if anyone is the anti-christ (and I don't believe in such silliness) it is Dubya.

Rolling Eyes

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**Skeptical** · Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:21 pm Post subject:

I don't know about the anti-Christ but I am rather concerned by some of the things Obama says. He has a commercial in which he says that we must be our brother's keeper. Personally, I don't want him or any government official to be my keeper. I'm doing just fine on my own, thanks!

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Informant · Joined: 20 Feb 2008 Posts: 33

Though I personally don't subscribe to End Time Antichrist beliefs, Obama would fit the description of the Antichrist according to the geopolitical interpretation better than anyone in recent memory. Huckabee fits the description rather well too.

If you try out one of those "666" calculators that are scattered around the Internet, you'll find that "Michael D. Huckabee" does in fact add up to 666.

It should be said that there are other interpretations of the Biblical passages referring to the Antichrist. Most important of these are probably the religious figure interpretations, where the Antichrist is a leader of a religion particularly hostile to Christianity, be it old (like Islamic radicalism) or new (like a New Age syncretism), or where the Antichrist is a usurper of religious authority in Christianity itself (such as the Papacy according to traditional Reformation theology).

**dr wu23** · Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Posts: 2158 Location: Indiana

**Skeptical** · Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 8:55 pm Post subject:

Actually, Doc, I think Obama was probably making the point that we needed to take care of the least fortunate among us. However, I do get a little concerned about promising a chicken in every pot when he declines to mention who will be paying for the chicken.

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**Carol Nistri** · Joined: 16 Jun 2007 Posts: 3226

I Obama came at americas most vulnerable time,everyone has been keeping a stiff upper lip for so long,waiting for the other shoe to drop that Obamas message of hope and change is being received like nothing anyone has ever seen before.The problem is no one can live up to that kind of hype.I remember the Clintons using the buzz word change and George Bushs father saying "Yeah Change,if the democrats get elected thats all you'll have left in your pocket",its all well and good to promise change among the cheering crowds,wait until he gets to Washington and see what kind of change he can bring about in that shark tank.

Informant · Joined: 20 Feb 2008 Posts: 33

Obama does use a lot of religious or pseudo-religious rhetoric. He's talked about being a "tool of God" and "building a Kingdom right here on earth".

I happen to prefer the Constitutional democratic republic we have right now, and I expect the President to work for the American people, not for God. If I wanted a "tool of God" whose goal was a "Kingdom on earth", I'd move to Iran.

**dr wu23** · Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Posts: 2158 Location: Indiana

**TheScamDetective** · Joined: 15 Jun 2007 Posts: 1337 Location: California

Informant
"I happen to prefer the Constitutional democratic republic we have right now, and I expect the President to work for the American people, not for God."
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I agree and it's too bad ole GWB didn't do that!!!
I seriously doubt McCain will either....so Obama and Hillary are looking good to a lot of people!!
The Republicans have been in the Oval Office long enough to have done the American people some good. Instead, we are worse off than ever!!
Yeah...Obama is right...it IS time for a change!!!
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Informant · Joined: 20 Feb 2008 Posts: 33

There is a difference between mentioning God frequently in your speeches and letting your religious ideologies dictate your politics.

Bush talked a lot about God and made a big deal about his faith, but when it came to actual policies, his actions were dictated by the Constitution, by geopolitical strategy, and economics. When he did make moral judgments, they were based on principles accepted not only by evangelical Christians but by Roman Catholics, many Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and moral atheists.

Obama, on the other hand, while not invoking God quite so much, is promising to govern in a way that is almost entirely dictated by the Christian "social gospel" that emerged in the early 1900s and is almost exclusively the property of the small but vocal Christian Left minority.

While Bush refers to his faith a lot, he has never advocated the creation of a Christian utopia, a "kingdom on earth" like Obama openly promises in speeches to his Christian Left followers.

Scam, Obama promises change. So what? The American Civil War was a change. The rise of Hitler was a change. Avril Lavigne was a change. Bush's invasion of Iraq was a change. Before you jump on Obama's "change for the sake of change" bandwagon, you'd better find out what he wants to change, how he's going to change it, and if he has a clear and workable plan for doing so. Change itself is not a policy.

**TheScamDetective** · Joined: 15 Jun 2007 Posts: 1337 Location: California

Informant
I haven't jumped on anyones bandwagon. I am watching the debates and paying attention to what Obama..Hillary... and McCain are all saying.
As an Atheist...I wish they would all leave god out of politics!!!
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**Skeptical** · Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:40 pm Post subject:

I bet Obama wishes his old pastor, Jeremiah Wright, would just go away. From this guy's rants, it's pretty clear that the white race hasn't totally cornered the market on racism and hatred.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/03/14/obamas-spiritual-adviser-questioned-us-role-in-spread-of-hiv-sept-11-attacks/

What kind of man of God would preach stuff like that? It really makes me wonder - what other surprises are there in Obama's past?

S
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stareater · Joined: 26 Feb 2008 Posts: 26

I find the whole concept of Obama as the anti-christ amusing and ironic. Campaign promises and religion, in my eyes, go hand-in-hand; they're good stories that are used to get people to believe in something that never materializes in the long run. Where was Bush's moral compass and connection to God when he was drinking and drugging and living the good life? It only came to the forefront when he had a strong lobby to satisfy, and his "guidance from God" hasn't done much good for anybody. I think Cheney is pulling a Wizard of Oz on G.W., hiding behind a curtain with a microphone and reverb unit and speaking to George in the God voice. What happened to the separation of church and state anyway?

I'm not following things too closely simply due to the fact that I'm fed up with lying, hypocritical politicians who will say anything to get into the Country Club that is government. From what I've seen, Obama strikes me as the American Idol candidate, saying all the right things but with little substance behind the facade. He seems like a good man, but I think the "buzzword" theory sums it all up. He's like the flavor of the month when the ice cream shop runs out of vanilla and chocolate. Hillary is just a disgusting creep, going wherever the poll winds blow and using her underlings as lambs for the politically correct slaughter. That whole race-driven nonsense put out there by Geraldine Ferraro was so transparent it wasn't funny. If people reacted to it positively, Hillary would not have distanced herself from the comments. She is diabolical, and it's disturbing, but then again politics is the business of lies and underhanded dealings. It's gets me irritated just thinking about it. Mild rant over!

**Skeptical** · Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 12:52 pm Post subject:

I did notice that a member of Obama's machine was recently fired for hinting that Candidate Obama might sing a different tune about his proposed withdrawal from Iraq if he were to become President Obama. She made the grave mistake of telling the truth - that Obama is pushing a rapid end to the war merely to win the election. Once the election is won, it will probably be discarded as unworkable like so many other campaign promises.

S
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